I'm trying to say that the world, particularly the developing world, is full of honest to god bourgeois that are hilariously poor compared to those $250k people discussed in the article.
I'm not really equipped for discussion about America, but isn't it crawling with shitty business people whose shitty businesses are struggling to bring any money? What's a median US business owner?
All anectdotal: Petty Bourgeois who employ a sizable number of people (not mom and pop shop types who employ 1-2 extra people, and let’s be real these people are rapidly being put out of business by megacorps) would be in the article’s income range. Someone who owns a few subway locations is probably making as much or just a bit lower than a west coast coder. But they don’t live on the west coast they get to live like gods in Hickory Sticks, GA where things are cheaper.
Start up costs sound high and profitability sounds low but subway was a stand in, it’s not the industry I’m familiar with. If you roughly halved the start up cost that sounds more accurate to me and honestly I wonder if the profits sound lower because the owners are “paying themselves a salary” which obfuscates what’s really coming over the bottom line
hexbear has been pretty good about that. I've been very transparent here about being a bourgeoisie class traitor, and there's been some hostility here and there (and some of it my fault), but mostly people have been very nice.
I wasn't saying they can't be the enemy. Anyone can be reactionary bad person. But just having slightly better conditions doesn't necessarily make a person an enemy.
I'm not a clever theory guy, but if those people are using all that money to buy rapidly appreciating assets as the article suggests, instead of doing $200k worth of drugs a year like a normal prole would, they basically join the bourgeois in my book.
Like if people make shitload of money and they're not stupid, they invest and the the bigger proportion of your wealth is tied up in uber, black rock, palantir, amazon and raytheon shares the more your interests are aligned with the goals of the bourgeois.
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Proles all share a common interest, even if some are doing an awful lot better or are much larger shitheads than others.
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Precisely, it's a trap worth avoiding. Just 'cause the butler slave gets better rations than us other slaves doesn't mean he's the enemy.
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I mean yeah, no doubt. They can totally be problematic or awful too, just saying that they are a fellow prole who too have chains to break.
If you frame class this way there's a whole world of real bourgeois who only see the kind of opulence those proles live in on tv.
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I'm trying to say that the world, particularly the developing world, is full of honest to god bourgeois that are hilariously poor compared to those $250k people discussed in the article.
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I'm not really equipped for discussion about America, but isn't it crawling with shitty business people whose shitty businesses are struggling to bring any money? What's a median US business owner?
All anectdotal: Petty Bourgeois who employ a sizable number of people (not mom and pop shop types who employ 1-2 extra people, and let’s be real these people are rapidly being put out of business by megacorps) would be in the article’s income range. Someone who owns a few subway locations is probably making as much or just a bit lower than a west coast coder. But they don’t live on the west coast they get to live like gods in Hickory Sticks, GA where things are cheaper.
Interesting. I've just looked it up and supposedly one Subway restaurant costs around $250k to start and generates about $30k of profit a year.
Start up costs sound high and profitability sounds low but subway was a stand in, it’s not the industry I’m familiar with. If you roughly halved the start up cost that sounds more accurate to me and honestly I wonder if the profits sound lower because the owners are “paying themselves a salary” which obfuscates what’s really coming over the bottom line
Those profits do sound surprisingly low.
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hexbear has been pretty good about that. I've been very transparent here about being a bourgeoisie class traitor, and there's been some hostility here and there (and some of it my fault), but mostly people have been very nice.
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I wasn't saying they can't be the enemy. Anyone can be reactionary bad person. But just having slightly better conditions doesn't necessarily make a person an enemy.
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I'm not a clever theory guy, but if those people are using all that money to buy rapidly appreciating assets as the article suggests, instead of doing $200k worth of drugs a year like a normal prole would, they basically join the bourgeois in my book.
Like if people make shitload of money and they're not stupid, they invest and the the bigger proportion of your wealth is tied up in uber, black rock, palantir, amazon and raytheon shares the more your interests are aligned with the goals of the bourgeois.
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