• Hgfantomos [he/him]
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    So, obviously this is quite loaded, but as a Jew, I am going to circumcise my son should I have one. Gentiles and non Muslims should not do it imo.

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      Why not let your kid wait until they actually want to join your faith before them voluntarily doing it? It cannot be easily undone.

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          Yeah, again, it doesn't have to be contingent on the faith.

      • Hgfantomos [he/him]
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        It can not easily be chosen either... Should I raise my children away from jewish life until an age they can voluntarily choose? Should I deny them the experiences of growing up jewish and then ask them to undergo adult circumcision, to study Tanakh, to hold the sabbath, etc? We all make decisions for our children. If as an adult they want to abandon a jewish life that is their decision, though I would be sad. I want to give them a jewish life from birth and to raise them in an explicitly jewish home.

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          I'm not saying you can't raise your kid to be Jewish, but a circumcision cannot be undone and it's something your child should do of their own consent. A circumcision does not make one Jewish.

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            You clearly know very little about religious Judaism if you're saying that it isn't a requirement for being Jewish. It's one of if not the most important aspects of being Jewish in a biblical sense.

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              Yet I know a number of uncut and religious Jews. Rituals can change.

              • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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                I legitimately don't believe you, if you were a religious Jew you'd be circumcised. There are a lot of things Jews aren't allowed to do if they aren't circumcized the biggest of which is being burried in a jewish cemetery.

          • Hgfantomos [he/him]
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            Of course it doesn’t. That does not mean it isn’t a significant and meaningful ritual for many Jews and Muslims.

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              I mean sure, but like, it's a ritual that permanently alters and affects sexual enjoyment so that's why I'd let people opt into it when they're old enough. Traditions and rituals CAN be changed.

    • Amorphous [any]
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      Don't permanently modify another person's body without their consent

      it's absolutely fucking ridiculous that i have to tell people this

      if you do modify another person's body without their consent, you are a piece of shit.

    • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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      Yeah, that's pretty fucked. A baby can't consent to that. Your children aren't your property.