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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
    hexagon
    ·
    2 years ago

    Are We Already Forgetting About the Ukraine War? Bloomberg

    Speak for yourself. I (and the loyal commenters and lurkers who are still following these threads despite the map having looked the same at a quick glance for the last couple months) are in this shit for the long haul.

    Two years ago, you couldn’t throw a rock in the cozy liberal enclaves of suburban New Jersey without hitting a Black Lives Matter yard sign. Now most of them are gone, often replaced by Ukraine-flag yard signs. While the BLM movement inspired some suburbanites to make anti-racism a permanent endeavor, many others wandered off after the next shiny object. It’s not hard to imagine the same thing happening to Western interest in Ukraine.

    Vladimir Putin’s brutal war of aggression began on Feb. 24. That’s roughly 100 days ago, but it might as well be 100 years for our addled attention spans. In the war’s early weeks, Americans were riveted by stories of Ukrainian resistance and Russian atrocity. Our attention has faded as the conflict has settled into a dismal slog, with Russia fighting Ukraine inch by inch for eastern territory. Ukrainians are no less heroic, and Russians are no less villainous, but have you seen the latest “Jiggle Jiggle” TikTok?

    Leonid Bershidsky looks back on the key lessons learned from the war so far, and the biggest might be that Ukraine needs sustained attention and help from the West, no matter the outcome. Even if Ukraine wins a miraculous military victory tomorrow, it will need money for rebuilding and help defending itself from the next Russian attack. Just as Black lives are still vital, so is the outcome of the Ukraine war, even if we stop paying attention to it.

    • Wertheimer [any]
      ·
      2 years ago

      :a-little-trolling: Can't believe how badly The Ukraine is doing in the ratings! Ukraine isn't losing the war, they're being fired for their bad (pathetic) ratings. Sad end to great show.

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
      ·
      2 years ago

      Even if Ukraine wins a miraculous military victory tomorrow, it will need money for rebuilding and help defending itself from the next Russian attack.

      We have always been at war in the Ukraine. We will need $40 billion in lethal aid per month in perpetuity to stave off the ever present asiatic menace from the East

      • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
        hexagon
        ·
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        I mean, they said they wanted Israel's Iron Dome missile defence system.

        Like, putting aside the obvious flaw that Palestinians with a relatively minuscule military budget can't make missiles with nearly the same sophistication as Russian missiles, which are some of if not the best missiles in the world right now, and even Israel's missile defence can't intercept enough of these missiles (many of which are essentially high school physics problems, where they literally travel in a perfectly predictable arc) to avoid serious damage, so how on earth does the US plan to make a missile defence system that can defend against a concerted Russian attack - this would presumably require tens of billions of dollars to be piped into a country that is run by oligarchs and was just about functional before the war, let alone the godawful state it'll be in after the war. This isn't "the only democracy in the Middle East" populated by poor little meow meows, it's a deeply corrupt country largely ran by racist nationalists. Which, well, Israel kinda is too, but there's a real difference in conditions there.

        • keepcarrot [she/her]
          ·
          2 years ago

          I'm pretty sure the reason the West doesn't send primo military hardware to Ukraine is that it wouldn't be a good look to see, say, a missile defence system lauded as the best and most advanced in the world get popped by a hypersonic missile from the "incompetent, underequipped, corrupt" Russian forces. They certainly wouldn't want a grounded or downed F-35 captured. This would also do harm to the idea of Western military invincibility that it's enjoyed fighting enemies with no air support or advanced air defence systems. It doesn't even have to be guaranteed, but it is almost definitely a legitimate fear.

          You can see the kind of PR nightmare the Turkish Baykatar drones have been, which has probably harmed at least some international arms sales.