this may induce :some-controversy: but we can all agree his accent is :chefs-kiss:

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Just looked it up and so it seems to have. Very disappointing, but not surprising with regard to the trend of ultra-leftism in the western communist movement

    • Vncredleader
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      2 years ago

      I don't know if I can easily blame either side. The communists in Ireland have always been very segmented, mostly unifying with radical socialists more than each other. I mean look at how the orthodox Marxist faction was the OIRA, but none of the other radicals supported them, many being far left or less "Marxist" socialists but way more militant and revolutionary like the Provos.

      Plus people in occupied territory are bound to be more radical than elsewhere. Its the same reason the young leftists in the Provos ended up flanking the OIRA back in the day, since they could rally all the Republicans in Ulster who didn't want a ceasefire. Dissident Republicans still exist.

      Just knee-jerk blaming ultras is why these splits happen. The CYM was kicked out as well as members (including on the Nation Executive Committee), and stripped membership from members in Northern Ireland, removing the Northern Area from its place in the party. I don't know the details or specific accusations, they seem to be buried. But my instinct is not to dump on ML splits from parties. For the same reason I don't blame CPC-ML for splitting in the 1970s, or just accept unity as a victory in and of itself, whoever keeps the official party name winning does not automatically mean the right side one, look at the CPSU with Khrushchev.

      Disclaimer the CPI aligned new Greater Belfast Branch follows me on twitter and their social media team is certainly awesome, but that's why I feel the need to question my instinct of preferring them. And one has to be wary, they are not wrong that the situation is reminiscent of how CPGB became Eurocommunist and while I don't think that'll be the case, that trend is just as common as ultras splitting. And we are faced with the fact that the CYM does more direct action than anyone, making their expulsion feel even harsher

      In Feb they formed the Irish Communist Reconstitution Committee whose statement can be found here http://communistpartyireland.ie/

      edit: I found a blog post essentially, but that lists the CYM 16 points for disaffiliating https://www.thepensivequill.com/2021/02/is-this-end-of-connolly-youth-movement.html

      they added their own editorializing, but separate. Interesting read and some internal politics specifics. CPI calling its own youth movement becoming full party members "entryism" is fucking hysterical