Sure, I mean I'm fine with all of that if that's what it takes, I just think that's not the best way to think about climate action. Like we don't have to bring everything to zero and end all treats, we just have to address a few major things seriously (like how we design and interconnect metropoles, renewable in the energy grid, cattle and tropical fruits in diets, home size, monitoring and reducing flights, international shipping, etc). Like if we do those things right there are a lot of basic niceties that would still be fine, like having access to a personal vehicle to go hiking on the weekend or something isn't actually that big a problem.