can't really actually secede up here unless we get industrialized and developed enough to either produce the food we need to sustain ourselves or process our raw resources into commodities for sale, or else we're gonna either have an immediate famine or be turned into a resource colony that'll get absolutely pillaged by finance capital. Of course the third option is to secede then swear fealty to another country which would be interesting as long as it isn't canada
You think the crackers seeing seceding as remedy for all their problems know that? Their knowledge about economy is just "throw money until things magically improve" and it's hardly rare since if you look at entire Ukraine war and crisis handling, federal govt think the same.
Its even funnier to me because a whole lot of the dumbass hoity-toity moderately wealthier than average dipshits that live out in Eagle River, an outskirt community district to the municipality of Anchorage, are constantly bickering to secede from Anchorage and become their own independent town regardless of the fact that they literally share resource infrastructure with the Municipality.
Here's an article from a few years back on it and heres an audio clip from Chapo Trap House that talks about another bunch of white dipshits trying to do the exact same thing a few years prior to that called - out of fucking everything possible - Eagles Landing! At least we have the fucking bird up here to justify naming shit after it.
BREAKING NEWS: ALASKA HAS SECEDED FROM THE UNITED STATES "Local authorities are a pledging a union with the country of Nepal. They say say 'For too long have we suffered under the American yoke, and for too long has Nepal been a land-locked nation. We figured we'd solve two birds with one stone.' Canada is more than a little offended but courteously accepting of its new Nepalese neighbor."
And have the people upstream of the Colorado River pour in vats of VX to own the commiefornians? Joking on that last bit, but the reliance on the Colorado River isn't.
Cali nerds need to get their water situation under control if they really want to set themselves on the path to autarky
Gotta get all the toxins out of the soil we put there somehow. Hemp works well at remediating and it'll grow well enough, considering you're not really worrying about the crop being desirable.
that's really neat actually. I have a vague interest, mainly watching a few scant videos every once in a while, in ecological restoration work and bio-rediversification, so hearing this kind of stuff's gives me the sort of positive brain tinglies.
What do you do with the resulting toxic hemp though? It’s just a repackaged heavy metal that’s going to get composted back into the dirt at some point.
That's a good question. I imagine sequestration, extracting the heavy metals and using it for industrial purposes, or extreme dilution (the old saying "The solution to pollution is dilution" is true, you just have to do it right. They're all naturally occurring elements, it's just the concentrations that are toxic.)
Yes. That shit is fucked up. Mind you, if California operated desalinization plants and shut down all golf courses and fake-ass suburban lawns, it would be more viable.
I should also add that as a Midwesterner, I am prepared to fight Californians to the death in the Water Wars. They can take Minnesota over my cold, dead body.
can't really actually secede up here unless we get industrialized and developed enough to either produce the food we need to sustain ourselves or process our raw resources into commodities for sale, or else we're gonna either have an immediate famine or be turned into a resource colony that'll get absolutely pillaged by finance capital. Of course the third option is to secede then swear fealty to another country which would be interesting as long as it isn't canada
You think the crackers seeing seceding as remedy for all their problems know that? Their knowledge about economy is just "throw money until things magically improve" and it's hardly rare since if you look at entire Ukraine war and crisis handling, federal govt think the same.
That said, pokes with stick do it, balkanize
Its even funnier to me because a whole lot of the dumbass hoity-toity moderately wealthier than average dipshits that live out in Eagle River, an outskirt community district to the municipality of Anchorage, are constantly bickering to secede from Anchorage and become their own independent town regardless of the fact that they literally share resource infrastructure with the Municipality.
Here's an article from a few years back on it and heres an audio clip from Chapo Trap House that talks about another bunch of white dipshits trying to do the exact same thing a few years prior to that called - out of fucking everything possible - Eagles Landing! At least we have the fucking bird up here to justify naming shit after it.
Anchored to Anchorage 😔
The lathe is having a weird one.
BREAKING NEWS: ALASKA HAS SECEDED FROM THE UNITED STATES "Local authorities are a pledging a union with the country of Nepal. They say say 'For too long have we suffered under the American yoke, and for too long has Nepal been a land-locked nation. We figured we'd solve two birds with one stone.' Canada is more than a little offended but courteously accepting of its new Nepalese neighbor."
... I'll take this deal on the grounds we'll become invisible to the world as one of the few secretly yet not really a secret communist states
California could make it work, provided they embraced communism.
And have the people upstream of the Colorado River pour in vats of VX to own the commiefornians? Joking on that last bit, but the reliance on the Colorado River isn't.
Cali nerds need to get their water situation under control if they really want to set themselves on the path to autarky
I don't know where the upstream states get most of their food but surely that's something California could leverage
pretty much my thoughts on it, just gotta raze las vegas and phoenix, and you'll be set.
Replace them with solar farms and soil remediation fields. Nothing of value will be lost destroying those two monuments to settler-colonial hubris.
in the desert? would that actually work out there?
Gotta get all the toxins out of the soil we put there somehow. Hemp works well at remediating and it'll grow well enough, considering you're not really worrying about the crop being desirable.
that's really neat actually. I have a vague interest, mainly watching a few scant videos every once in a while, in ecological restoration work and bio-rediversification, so hearing this kind of stuff's gives me the sort of positive brain tinglies.
What do you do with the resulting toxic hemp though? It’s just a repackaged heavy metal that’s going to get composted back into the dirt at some point.
That's a good question. I imagine sequestration, extracting the heavy metals and using it for industrial purposes, or extreme dilution (the old saying "The solution to pollution is dilution" is true, you just have to do it right. They're all naturally occurring elements, it's just the concentrations that are toxic.)
Isn't there something about water? Like doesn't most of Californias water come from other states?
Yes. That shit is fucked up. Mind you, if California operated desalinization plants and shut down all golf courses and fake-ass suburban lawns, it would be more viable.
I should also add that as a Midwesterner, I am prepared to fight Californians to the death in the Water Wars. They can take Minnesota over my cold, dead body.
Minnesota will from henceforth be "Northern California". We will drain lake Superior for our lawns and carwashes.