Insanely late reply but yeah you're getting to the root of the disagreement. I no longer really see sucdemry & eurocommunism as inherently anti-communist. To be clear, CURRENTLY it absolutely is. The foreign policy of almost all social democratic parties are all Guaido-pilled. :guaido:
What changed for me is that I consider these centers of power to be the aftermath, or the fallout of the western socialist movement in the 1900s. "Useless sucdemry" is what the movement got as a booby prize. And though the struggle for western socialism failed, we still see the fruits of that struggle today in the welfare states. It failed in its goal of transitioning to socialism, like every other democratic socialist project has, but the struggle was worth it nonetheless. (I'd also point out that it's not like Maoist insurgencies were especially close to power in the west either.)
It's a painfully unclear big-picture take, but in essence I'm saying this: if leftism somehow pops off in the west, the only leftism I imagine winning is one that occasionally has cringe takes about the USSR. Or one that says something like "Cuba is not perfect but the embargo is worse so let's end it."
To be clear, this is purely a west-centric take. And it's maybe too jaded. But for the foreseeable future, there's not going to be an insurgent Maoist left. The only thing I even bother hoping for now in the west is a social democracy that brings some amount of welfare and defangs its imperialist projects.
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It's a socialism that will disavow socialism itself, if the propaganda is enough.
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Insanely late reply but yeah you're getting to the root of the disagreement. I no longer really see sucdemry & eurocommunism as inherently anti-communist. To be clear, CURRENTLY it absolutely is. The foreign policy of almost all social democratic parties are all Guaido-pilled. :guaido:
What changed for me is that I consider these centers of power to be the aftermath, or the fallout of the western socialist movement in the 1900s. "Useless sucdemry" is what the movement got as a booby prize. And though the struggle for western socialism failed, we still see the fruits of that struggle today in the welfare states. It failed in its goal of transitioning to socialism, like every other democratic socialist project has, but the struggle was worth it nonetheless. (I'd also point out that it's not like Maoist insurgencies were especially close to power in the west either.)
It's a painfully unclear big-picture take, but in essence I'm saying this: if leftism somehow pops off in the west, the only leftism I imagine winning is one that occasionally has cringe takes about the USSR. Or one that says something like "Cuba is not perfect but the embargo is worse so let's end it."
To be clear, this is purely a west-centric take. And it's maybe too jaded. But for the foreseeable future, there's not going to be an insurgent Maoist left. The only thing I even bother hoping for now in the west is a social democracy that brings some amount of welfare and defangs its imperialist projects.