First, it started with people saying cis women getting breast implants was gender-affirming surgery and at least that kinda made sense on the very surface level. Now people are claiming all plastic surgeries are gender-affirming which made me check whether this was some orchestrated trolling effort. Doesn't seem like it.

Here's the tweet .

  • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I agree with both your premises, but I don’t agree with the conclusion that all cosmetic surgeries are gender affirming, which is the disputed conclusion the tweet makes. Your premises don’t lead to this conclusion

    Are all cosmetic surgeries socially affirming? Yes.

    Are all cosmetic surgeries gender affirming? Dubious.

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      i mean, i said in my first post that I think the hair treatment being considered "gender affirming care" specifically is a bit silly, but then, I don't really expect random fucking internet influencers to thread the academic needle between specifically gender affirming care and more broadly socially affirming care. (care being employed pretty fucking dubiously when being applied to rich assholes getting plastic surgery for funsies.) I think a more charitable interpretation is to simply understand the point to be about socially affirming care more broadly, and that it doesn't matter because she could just as easily picked Elon taking literal hormone replacement therapy along with his hyper macho best bro Joe. There's just not a good visual way to show that the richest guy on the planet no longer thinks his balls are making him masculine enough or whatever.

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I dunk on the posts I see, nothing more nothing less. Calling all cosmetic surgery gender affirming is dunkable.

        • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          To quote my original comment: not the same as all plastic surgeries being gender affirming, which is not what the tweet claims anyway. like i just don't know what else to try to tell you, I never claimed what you're trying to dunk on, I explicitly stated the opposite, and made a light case for why his specific hair treatment could possibly be considered gender affirming. damn.

          • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            You know what you are correct, I was mixing up the OP tweet with another comment on this thread that said “basically all cosmetic surgery can be viewed through the lens of gender affirming surgery”.

            Even with the qualifier of “basically” it still feels like way too strong of a statement and one that erases a lot of people.

            Sorry for being pedantic, just really felt like people in here were ignoring the existence of non-binary people and universal cosmetic surgeries and I countersignalled a little too hard

            • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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              2 years ago

              oh, I vibe. yeah, I definitely don't agree with that blanket statement, cosmetic surgery as a whole is a lot to unpack in a forum comment. glad we got on the same page, all the best :hexbear-non-binary:

            • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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              2 years ago

              also non-binary people absolutely get ignored all the goddamn time, so definitely don't hesitate to remind people on this site lol