The least we owe Ukraine is full support, and to do this we need a stronger Nato

Those who advocate less support for Ukraine and more pressure on it to negotiate, inclusive of accepting painful territorial renunciations, like to repeat that Ukraine simply cannot win the war against Russia. True, but I see exactly in this the greatness of Ukrainian resistance: they risked the impossible, defying pragmatic calculations, and the least we owe them is full support, and to do this, we need a stronger Nato – but not as a prolongation of the US politics.

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  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    they risked the impossible, defying pragmatic calculations, and the least we owe them is full support

    So how many more Ukrainians are you willing to get slaughtered, Slavoj? Just give us a number - maybe another 50,000? So you will just let that many souls die painful, pointless deaths all because you're taken in by the narrative?

    Jfc this is why I hate philosophers. Zizek treating support for war and the death of thousands like he's rooting on some scrappy all-glove no-bat middle infielder making a diving stop. "He just hustles and plays the game the right way, he deserves my support".

    • Vncredleader [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Also, who is "THEY"? Ukrainians are fighting back in no small part because their government has forced them to fight back and die needlessly or be used as human shields. He acts like Ukraine is an entity in and of itself, one who's people are not directly impacted by their government's policy which they don't choose. Lot of people are not defying "pragmatic calculations", their government is refusing to entertain the idea of peace