Those who advocate less support for Ukraine and more pressure on it to negotiate, inclusive of accepting painful territorial renunciations, like to repeat that Ukraine simply cannot win the war against Russia. True, but I see exactly in this the greatness of Ukrainian resistance: they risked the impossible, defying pragmatic calculations, and the least we owe them is full support, and to do this, we need a stronger Nato – but not as a prolongation of the US politics.

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  • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    we need a stronger Nato – but not as a prolongation of the US politics.

    We need more rain - but not as water falling from the sky.

  • DirtbagVegan [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    He’s fucking lost it. He’s trying to thread a needle that no one is going to. You just give full throated support to NATO giving weapons to Ukraine but somehow in a way that doesn’t increase US power over Europe? That’s literally impossible. Him bringing up the need to support freedom for Julian Assange at the end is the cherry on top. He’s arguing to support the exact forces trying to put Assange in jail.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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      2 years ago

      He’s fucking lost it.

      Never had it to begin with. The dude a petty bougeois, socdem at best, ivory tower professor who's entire career has been spent in academia as a member of the intelligentsia.

      He was never a comrade, an ally, or even a fellow traveler. At best he was a meme and at worst a petty bourgeois torch bearer for capital misguiding people on the socialist path away from it.

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        At the risk of attracting :funny-clown-hammer:, it's like when everyone liked Destiny for a week because he was dunking on Nazis. He was never good and has since revealed that he's pretty bad, but man he fucking destroyed Jordan Peterson that one time.

        • Bordiga [he/him]
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          zizek is useful as an intellectual against other more reactionary figures.

          zizek is a feral trash possum given human form, a stray dog with mange that mauls pigs in back alleys, a roaming scavenger that gorges himself on overturned dumpsters filled with urban mulch. we should never look to a syphilitic hyena covered in its own vomit as a source of credible theory

          you send zizek after figures that need to be humiliated and would otherwise waste a better leftist's time. zizek is only motivated by intellectual games and not practicality

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              I have a special place in my heart for hating assholes privileged enough to play with their belly buttons instead of doing anything, especially when they pretend they're better than anyone who is doing something

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        • Vncredleader
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          2 years ago

          Not a legend the Croats would tell

    • Bordiga [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      his only contribution to modern leftist pop culture is highlighting that everyone is driven by ideology

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    we need a stronger Nato – but not as a prolongation of the US politics

    What is this idealistic drivel Zizek, you eatin out of that trashcan old man

  • GundamZZ [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It's OK. He didn't actually research the dispute at all. He's just judging it based on the headlines he's read about it like he does with movies.

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    • Bordiga [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      he can only read the headlines because the newspapers are on his coffee table and he can't leave his armchair. have some compassion

  • Sasuke [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    For me, John Lennon’s mega-hit Imagine

    yeah okay i'm not reading another word of this

    • CommCat [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      why is this fucker still so popular among middle class college leftists? He absolutely trashed Castro's legacy when he died, saying Castro and the Cuban Revolution accomplished nothing.

      • Wheaties [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Because he made the funny canadian professor look bad

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          He didn’t even though really. He had a civil discussion with him and they both looked like idiots, felt like watching a Vaush vs. Destiny debate

      • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        As far as I can tell, most European and American Communists are Anti-Communists. Makes sense to have a Left Anti-Communist be their representative.

      • comi [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Because idealism speaks to lib mind :zizek-preference:

      • Bordiga [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        why is this fucker still so popular among middle class college leftists

        because they are middle class and in college

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  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    they risked the impossible, defying pragmatic calculations, and the least we owe them is full support

    So how many more Ukrainians are you willing to get slaughtered, Slavoj? Just give us a number - maybe another 50,000? So you will just let that many souls die painful, pointless deaths all because you're taken in by the narrative?

    Jfc this is why I hate philosophers. Zizek treating support for war and the death of thousands like he's rooting on some scrappy all-glove no-bat middle infielder making a diving stop. "He just hustles and plays the game the right way, he deserves my support".

    • Vncredleader
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      2 years ago

      Also, who is "THEY"? Ukrainians are fighting back in no small part because their government has forced them to fight back and die needlessly or be used as human shields. He acts like Ukraine is an entity in and of itself, one who's people are not directly impacted by their government's policy which they don't choose. Lot of people are not defying "pragmatic calculations", their government is refusing to entertain the idea of peace

  • FuckingFerengi [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Ty for your philosophical contributions to the continental tradition, Mr. Zizek, now please face the wall.

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Nah, lock him up with Jordan Peterson and a boxset of Seinfeld until he drives him mad with endless self-contradicting theories on each episode.

      • Bordiga [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        this is the way. zizek is useful as a deterrent and punishment to reactionary pseudo-intellectuals. he should not be inflicted on normal people

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    2 years ago

    From the rightist standpoint, Ukraine fights for European values against the non-European authoritarians; from the leftist standpoint, Ukraine fights for global freedom, inclusive of the freedom of Russians themselves. That’s why the heart of every true Russian patriot beats for Ukraine.

    Fucking drivel, what is this moron talking about.

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