• Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Syria was sovereign before the civil war. It could not counter the coup on its own without Russian assistance. Neither could Belarus or Kazakhstan. Neither could Ukraine. They all fell or would have fallen.

    I think China’s idealist, pacifist foreign policy has been shielded for the past decades by the fact that it was integrated into Western Economies and not confronting them. As that shifts and the Western nations start to feel increasingly at odds with Chinese interests, that shield will fall. If China doesn’t adjust to a materialist, realist foreign policy then it will suffer greatly when it brushes up against the reality of the imperialist war machine

    Ironically, Russia’s foreign policy is much more Marxist than China’s due to the history of being attacked and shoved into the corner by the west very recently and there is momentum in its policies and alliances from when it was the USSR. China has been allowed to detach its foreign policy from reality because it was very economically useful to the west for a period. That period is closing

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Ironically, Russia’s foreign policy is much more Marxist

      We definitely completely disagree with each other. China would not be poised to lead the world with it's extremely foreign policy, created by the material conditions necessary for it to get where it is now.

      I think China’s idealist, pacifist foreign policy has been shielded for the past decades by the fact that it was integrated into Western Economies and not confronting them. As that shifts and the Western nations start to feel increasingly at odds with Chinese interests, that shield will fall.

      If this occurs, and I agree it is a possibility, that will create new conditions and change in policy. Actions before that occurs will only guarantee it happens sooner, and while they're tied together with the west on manufacturing for now they can do more with the current line.

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        All I’m saying is that if Syria, Belarus and Kazakhstan had China as their principal ally they would all be US puppet states by now. If Pakistan had Russia as their principal ally the coup would have been stopped.

        This is simply just a fact. Russia has done more for anti-imperialism internationally in the last decade than China has in the past 5 decades. China does well cracking down on color revolutions internally, I merely wish their external policies were aligned with their internal ones.

        It’s not a competition obviously, I just very much wish China gets its head out of the sand and learns from Russia before it’s too late and they or their allies pay a heavy toll. China needs to stop doing military deals with the Solomon Islands and Pakistan if they aren’t willing to commit, they are recklessly endangering them. They are painting a big red target on their backs and then walking away and hiding when someone comes to shoot it

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Yes and I agree with the position of offering critical support to their actions on anti-imperialist lines. But we don't want Russian capitalism. We want Communism.

          I will not support Russia uncritically nor will I claim China should act before the west disconnects by itself. It is the accurately correct marxist position to take.

          Russia does not do anti-imperialism because it wants communism, they have been a useful temporary ally at best because they simply disagree with a neoliberal globalist capitalism and want a different capitalism where they may gain greater wealth and power. This must not be forgotten.

        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          China officials recent comments and actions give me hope that they starting to slap back at the US. From Taipei to the Pacific region. Pakistan is too complicated since their military has a long history with the US, but their new puppet still have to balance the relationship since China is still their biggest trading partner and a deterrence against India.

          • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            I think China will stir from its slumber as it is increasingly harassed, it’s just a question of how much needless losses do the anti-imperialist nations have to sustain before they do