Eh, they settled those planets less then a generation ago. Sure the Cardassians are fascists but also your home nation is a massive post scarcity society than can easily resettle you on one of their hundreds of planets. They're basically trying to continue a bloody war cuz they got sentimental about a place they moved, it's not like their ethnic homeland of anything.
Right, Maquis always did given me strong vibes of Wild West settlers and sovereign citizens, and the Native American characterisation of Chakotay added a layer of hammer action to that.
When I say Maquis I am also thinking of the types of Bajorans we see like in Ensign Ro, who are opposing the treaty. We know Bajorans joined the Maquis, and the Badlands served as refuge for Bajorans during the occupation. Maybe I over emphasized it in my head when watching, but I always assumed the colonies the Maquis come from include some entirely or majority Bajoran settlements. We know Bajor had colonies and they fell into Cardassian control, and that a great deal of Maquis are former Starfleet moved not by being from the Federation colonies, but from witnessing the Cardassians' war crimes. We saw how awful the refugee camps are, so there being established colonies that are now under Cardassian control would be another motivation. Free, isolated, already built colonies for the huge number of refugees. That and we don't know how recent those Federation colonies are, or even if they are ones formed by the Federation, or ones given Federation membership before losing it due to the DMZ.
In fact Journey's End was initially going to either be Maquis in place of the Native American colony, or they would be introduced as a comparison, the statements are unclear. This did get picked up on later, obviously with Chakotay, but also the Native American Maquis in "Preemptive Strike". The Val Jean obviously had several Bajoran crewmembers.
The Marquis would be cool if the entirety of star trek was located on a single planet. Stretching the concept of Indigenousness to the stars like this is nobel savage type shit that also allows colonizer societies to larp as the colonized without really exploring how that would change them as a people.
It's also dumb cuz they already did it with Bajor. Could have just had some flashback scenes were Star Fleet officers defect to aid the Bajorian guerrillas, and how the Federation deals with these guys after the war cuz on one had they did disobey orders and break the Prime Directive, but also now Bajor is an ally of the Federation against Cardassia and court marshalling guys who are now heroes in the Bajorians eyes probably ain't a good idea.
They sorta approach that with Ro but never commit. I think as complex as DS9 is, it never squares that circle between Bajoran resistance and the Maquis, despite the fact that we know the Maquis operate from Bajoran colonies, and have Bajoran members, and that the Bajoran resistance used Federation colonies in their fight. Separating them into mostly federation colonists was a stupid move. Just make them more pronounced as including Bajoran colonies and play up the idea that the Badlands created diverse communities.
For instance the Maquis have a significant contingent of Native Americans, because they went to these colonies to gain a separate homeland. They are not purely random colonists. Also I don't think any Maquis was a colonizer, colonizer and colonist are distinct things. The identity of the people on those worlds is different to say Rhodesians inherently. Again they include Native Americans trying to make a new home, and seemingly communities of Bajoran colonies and refugees from the occupation.
The problem is they killed the plotline and Voyager NEVER did anything with them
Yeah but the Marquis are cool
Eh, they settled those planets less then a generation ago. Sure the Cardassians are fascists but also your home nation is a massive post scarcity society than can easily resettle you on one of their hundreds of planets. They're basically trying to continue a bloody war cuz they got sentimental about a place they moved, it's not like their ethnic homeland of anything.
Right, Maquis always did given me strong vibes of Wild West settlers and sovereign citizens, and the Native American characterisation of Chakotay added a layer of hammer action to that.
When I say Maquis I am also thinking of the types of Bajorans we see like in Ensign Ro, who are opposing the treaty. We know Bajorans joined the Maquis, and the Badlands served as refuge for Bajorans during the occupation. Maybe I over emphasized it in my head when watching, but I always assumed the colonies the Maquis come from include some entirely or majority Bajoran settlements. We know Bajor had colonies and they fell into Cardassian control, and that a great deal of Maquis are former Starfleet moved not by being from the Federation colonies, but from witnessing the Cardassians' war crimes. We saw how awful the refugee camps are, so there being established colonies that are now under Cardassian control would be another motivation. Free, isolated, already built colonies for the huge number of refugees. That and we don't know how recent those Federation colonies are, or even if they are ones formed by the Federation, or ones given Federation membership before losing it due to the DMZ.
In fact Journey's End was initially going to either be Maquis in place of the Native American colony, or they would be introduced as a comparison, the statements are unclear. This did get picked up on later, obviously with Chakotay, but also the Native American Maquis in "Preemptive Strike". The Val Jean obviously had several Bajoran crewmembers.
The Marquis would be cool if the entirety of star trek was located on a single planet. Stretching the concept of Indigenousness to the stars like this is nobel savage type shit that also allows colonizer societies to larp as the colonized without really exploring how that would change them as a people.
It's also dumb cuz they already did it with Bajor. Could have just had some flashback scenes were Star Fleet officers defect to aid the Bajorian guerrillas, and how the Federation deals with these guys after the war cuz on one had they did disobey orders and break the Prime Directive, but also now Bajor is an ally of the Federation against Cardassia and court marshalling guys who are now heroes in the Bajorians eyes probably ain't a good idea.
They sorta approach that with Ro but never commit. I think as complex as DS9 is, it never squares that circle between Bajoran resistance and the Maquis, despite the fact that we know the Maquis operate from Bajoran colonies, and have Bajoran members, and that the Bajoran resistance used Federation colonies in their fight. Separating them into mostly federation colonists was a stupid move. Just make them more pronounced as including Bajoran colonies and play up the idea that the Badlands created diverse communities.
For instance the Maquis have a significant contingent of Native Americans, because they went to these colonies to gain a separate homeland. They are not purely random colonists. Also I don't think any Maquis was a colonizer, colonizer and colonist are distinct things. The identity of the people on those worlds is different to say Rhodesians inherently. Again they include Native Americans trying to make a new home, and seemingly communities of Bajoran colonies and refugees from the occupation.
The problem is they killed the plotline and Voyager NEVER did anything with them
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