"Will it drive those voters to the polls or will Americans just vote to punish high petrol prices?"

"Inflation will be more important. The economy is important to everyone, abortion rights aren’t. Reality sucks"

"Okay blaming like Bernie Bros and stuff is all good and well, but I dislike how we just seem to forgive conservatives for being the ones who do this in the first place. Like the Republicans are a natural force who don't have responsibility for their evil so the true ones at fault must actually be someone else. Like come on, I place far more blame on the 60 year old white man in a swing state who thinks chemtrails are poison who actually voted for Trump and specifically wanted this to happen rather than the 20-year-old college student in California that already went to Clinton."

"This is more than anything a blow to the rule of law in the United States. Who can take the court seriously when they are so blatantly political"

"Don't just be angry, do something about it. Donate, volunteer, get your ass out there and get people to vote. We can undo this."

"Sounds like the Supreme Court needs to have their pay adjusted to minimum wage."

"Bernie 🤝GOP Platform"

"To bad that majority didn’t vote for hillary"

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  • 7bicycles [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    “To bad that majority didn’t vote for hillary”

    They did though

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Lmao oh right remember when she rigged the election and won but still lost on a technicality even though she’d already accounted for that technicality while she was rigging the election in which she went up against the person she hand picked to be the easiest to beat?

        • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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          edit-2
          2 years ago

          Primary was explicitly rigged. General was more rigged in the sense of “I backed my opponent and have the vast majority of the technocratic elite operating as if my win is a given”. Capital always has a thumb on the scale, but I don’t mean that in the Trumpian sense of “the illegals are resurrecting their grandmas to do mail-in ballot stuffing”

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            edit-2
            2 years ago

            I mean the democrats rigged the election via gerrymandering etc in their areas but the republicans did too in the areas they control so neither one could be said to be a victim of a rigged election so much as two groups frantically trying to rig an election harder than the other.

            American politicians don't ever even bother campaigning outside their base they just try and manipulate the electoral system to leverage the base they have more effectively by drawing up districts and making it harder for the wrong people to vote

    • pink_mist [she/her]
      ·
      2 years ago

      First they came for the socialists, and I lol'd 'cause those fuckin' bernie bros cost Hillary her election ten years ago.

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      They literally can't wrap their brains around it. It's why it's still on their minds! 6 years of processing and liberals just cannot get it.

    • NotAnOp [comrade/them]
      ·
      2 years ago

      Even IF she had won, republicans still would have taken the House and Senate. Liberal's favorite republican, John "I don't fly good" McCain, said they wouldn't let her appoint any justices. This was inevitable no matter how hard anyone voted. But if liberals admitted that, then they would have to admit that electoral politics is helpless at defending your privileges in this shit system designed to empower slaveholders and capitalists.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      2 years ago

      I think it was meant to be sarcastic from the start, as a sort of double helplessness.

  • 7bicycles [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    “Sounds like the Supreme Court needs to have their pay adjusted to minimum wage.”

    Yeah these decisions are being made on a financial basis as no abortions means beaucoup bucks to the supreme court judges somehow, like the fucking underwear gnomes on south park

  • save_vs_death [they/them]
    ·
    2 years ago

    Ok, let’s get this show on the road.

    No dooming. [pinned mod post]

    What's more dooming than your only comeback being "you should have voted in 2016”. What are you gonna do, go into your fucking time machine and commit voter fraud because an overwhelming number of "the bernie bros" actually voted for hillary?

    You can't change the past, and the most forward thinking reply in that thread is "democrats have to start playing hardball" (which made me laugh), this is liberal hauntology.

    For the party of pragmatism and big brain election understanding, they sure seem to like blaming voters a lot, a very pragmatic, functional and popular election strategy.

    [dumb lefties think the dems could have stopped this at any time but actually [legalese gibberish]]
    [wow all my liberal friends think voting is useless]

    Well which one is it, you bozos, if they can’t do anything, it can’t be that useful now, can it.

    Voted in the wrong fuckin election lol. All the skippers in 2016...and third party brainiacs.

    So what, voting in elections matter, but only in the correct elections, the others are shit; so democrats have to win every time to keep your rights, but republicans have to win only once to fuck them all up.

    Seems like the system is dogshit my dude.

    I wonder if you see a real brain drain from the south. I really would think twice about the San Fran to Austin move for instance at this point.

    They get funded by your tax dollars anyway you utter buffoon.

    [some dumb gibberish about moving people to red states to flip them blue]

    This is a country where a majority of the people do not vote, yet your solution is not to appeal to the non-voters, but to cook up child brain plans like moving huderds of thousands of people to other states to flip them.

    But her emails.

    Hillary Clinton cannot fail, she can only be failed.

    My only real hope about this unfortunate turn is that the societal backlash against the fuckwits that orchestrated this will be huge.

    If the backlash is “i’m gonna voot so hard, you’re gonna regret it” nothing will happen.

    So I'll just say that anyone who thinks the intent of the founders was that we would end up with minority rule and a federal government that can't legislate is either a moron or so blinded by motivated reasoning that they are with regard

    Yeah, the fucking genocidal slavers that only allowed white landowners to vote would never create a system where minority rule would be the norm.

    I've never participated in a protest but now just tell me when and where. I'm so embarrassed to be a US citizen

    A sad day when you have to think about doing any political action that’s not voooting.

    • CrimsonDynamo [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      no dooming

      Why are so many online spaces in the business of shutting down any actual discourse? You see it everywhere. Thread locked no dooming keep it civil

      Vote harder

      Like, fill the circle in darker?

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
      ·
      2 years ago

      At least the last one is waking up to reality. And I hive credit to the hardball guy for acknowledging the current style of do nothing and cry is stupid. He might eventually shift to "we need to play hardball.=>I need to play hardball=>Revolution is the hardest ball around." Something like that happened for me, I was tired of the "progressives" never doing anything and wanted something more effective.

      • save_vs_death [they/them]
        ·
        2 years ago

        oh yeah, at best they're going in the good direction (i mean this is neoliberal, nobody is going to go "you know what, the femboys were right, tear it all down"), and at worst they're not stuck in the revanchist "got dang bernard brothers strike again"

  • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    Thank you (socialists in general) for not letting me go down that path.

    I probably wouldn't have anyway because I hated republicans too much to put up with those hog-cranking civility gigalibs, but still.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
    ·
    2 years ago

    Can’t believe r/TrustFundManChild doesn’t care about abortion rights, they’re usually soooo progressive

  • Theblarglereflargle [any]
    ·
    2 years ago

    More Bernie supporters voted for Clinton the. Clinton supporters voted for Obama.

    And THEN Obama got a filibuster proof super majority on the back of provisioning to codify Roe v Wade.

    You absolute cretins will blame anything but the actual cause of the problem.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
      ·
      2 years ago

      Democrats and failing to pass any useful legislation when they have overwhelming majorities.

      Name a more iconic duo.

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
    ·
    2 years ago

    The one talking about Bernie bros is literally the smartest person on that site. "Hey maybe we keep losing because of the people who want to skin us and eat or flesh, not the people that disliked us slapping them repeatedly."

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      2 years ago

      They'll feel above it all and quip about it all the way until brunch ends with them getting blackbagged by the nazis that were totally not as bad as the commies. :doomer:

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      I'm gonna VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTE :so-true:

      Yes, Officer, I have a permit for this joke.

      :volcel-judge: Move along.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
          ·
          2 years ago

          Don't look at me like that. This permit isn't expired.

          It isn't expired, is it? :what:

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
      ·
      2 years ago

      "political power grows out of the ballot and it's fun"

      • Mao Ze Dong, Chinese twitch streamer
    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
      ·
      2 years ago

      this is literally their pathologically process-focussed, can't-have-too-much-democracy-because-you-can't-trust-the-unwashed-masses elitism at work. prime example of how ability to reason goes out the window when you spend every day with clintonite pr drones shitting into your brainpan.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      how do they not yet understand that the rule of law comes from the fact state security forces will use violence to enforce it and not some magical mandate from everyone believing really hard, and all the kids doing their homework

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
      ·
      2 years ago

      In a sense it does, because the courts being from the British tradition depend on precedents for how the law works. Once you get rid of that it lays bare the state working as violence enforcing the will of a ruling class, not agreed upon rules occasionally requiring force. Basically, civic religion will take a blow from this(hopefully). But yes, in the world of materialism where our ideology operates, this is nothing.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      2 years ago

      "Rule of law" is a carton of half-and-half where one half is performative decorum bullshit and the other half is police brutality against undesirables. :us-foreign-policy:

  • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
    ·
    2 years ago

    this isn't alienation in the marxist sense, my friend. no no no, this is bourgeois insulation from the consequences of bourgeois policy.

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    the sheer power of a libs brain at ignoring the obvious fact that American elections are rigged is potent as well as the fact that this happened under a democrat president anyway.

  • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
    ·
    2 years ago
    Don't make me tap the sign

    r/neoliberal was created by and is astroturfed by a fossil fuel think tank called the Progressive Policy Institute, as part of their "Neoliberal Project"

    PPI has been around since 1989 and views itself as Bill Clinton's "idea mill" aka think tank. Why I call them a fossil fuel think tank is detailed here. They oppose climate action, defend fracking, and receive donations from Exxon Mobil.

    it's safe to say that their upvotes are farmed, and their organic support is mostly bourgeois economics and political science majors and interns who hope to work for PPI or a similar think tank one day. It's basically a Neera Tanden farm.

    The creator of r/neoliberal, Colin Mortimer, is the Director of the Center for New Liberalism at PPI, which seeks to "develop a salient identity around the center-left values that have increasingly come under fire in this age of populism."