• JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    No joke. Raiders were a major problem because it was a proxy war between Madrid and London. So Madrid would support runaway slaves, give them guns and whatnot and send them up to the carolinas to free more slaves and kill British. So this dude named Oglethorpe figured if he could create a whites only colony that would solve the problem because if you saw an African you knew right away something was up. But, again, the greedy fuckers demanded their slaves. So eventually they got their way.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Sakai argues in Settlers that most abolitionists were simply scared of a Haiti-style slave revolt after Louverture's revolution :louverture-shining:

      It wasn't uncommon for abolitionists to expect that they could just send the freed slaves "back to Africa", too.

      • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yep! I haven't read Settlers yet, but John Brown was kind of a outlier among abolitionists at the time who saw Africans as his equal as opposed to many of the other abolitionists who just wanted them gone.

      • MKMuatra [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        uncommon for abolitionists to expect that they could just send the freed slaves “back to Africa”, too.

        Tried reading Lincoln's speeches to see why he's considered so good and apparently this was just his position. They uh left that part out in school

        • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          They also left out the part where he was more concerned about keeping the union together than freeing slaves.

        • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah that’s another thing Sakai brings up. Lincoln’s vp literally commented that Africans would be outcompeted by whites so it wasn’t anything to worry about

        • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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          2 years ago

          It wasn't just his position, he actually did send some folks. I know someone who doesn't have definitive proof, so grain of salt, but it's been folklore passed down through their family that it happened to one of their ancestors.

      • Lilith [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Settlers is a great read. It also gets bonus points for how much it upsets white guys