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    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      No, I mean these definitions are nebulous at best and that is the pretense on which it is classified as a schedule one substance. It's bullshit drug war propaganda to call weed psychedelic.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Of course. Also the main reason I responded to this post was because this person is trying to do a China bad struggle session.

          See here

          • HauntedBySpectacle [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            lame, China good. Psychedelics should be legal regardless of what their position is though.

            and anecdotally, I do think weed can have psychedelic effects on people. It's not in the like technical category of psychedelic drugs with LSD and psilocybin, but if we used the term more broadly for the kind of effects you associate with them and consider, say, a dissociative like ketamine a psychedelic, enough weed can be like that. Personally I've had closed-eye visuals from smoking a lot on a low tolerance

                  • HauntedBySpectacle [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    2 years ago

                    I knew that it can, but I have trouble believing that anyone who trips on some gas is cause they're that sleep deprived. hallucinating from lack of sleep happens but most people aren't at that level? anyone who gets less than 7 or 8 hours or night is technically sleep deprived but that's a different degree from hallucinating

                      • FidelCastro [he/him]
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                        2 years ago

                        Thank you for typing that out. Genuinely good read while I have my morning coffee and cigarette

                        :maduro-coffee:

                      • HauntedBySpectacle [he/him, comrade/them]
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                        2 years ago

                        true

                        the scheduling for school, work, etc. is so punishing on young people's sleep patterns.

                        we'd have to see if a middle-aged adult who regularly gets enough sleep would trip from smoking then :party-parrot-science:

                    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                      2 years ago

                      I have trouble believing that anyone who trips on some gas is cause they’re that sleep deprived.

                      The point is that all sorts of things can cause hallucinations, but cannabis is not a psychedelic by any definition. I also have to reiterate that this entire post was intended as struggle bait. OP either has an axe to grind with China and is too cowardly to come right out and say it or is deliberately posting wrecker shit.

                      Notice they have not responded to anyone in this thread or their other bait post that was more obvious.

                  • HauntedBySpectacle [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    2 years ago

                    of course I heard that sleep deprivation can make you hallucinate. I've had it happen to me.

                    I meant I want a source that attributes effects people claim to be weed to sleep deprivation.

                    • FidelCastro [he/him]
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                      2 years ago

                      of course I heard that sleep deprivation can make you hallucinate. I’ve had it happen to me.

                      I meant I want a source that attributes effects people claim to be weed to sleep deprivation.

                      Fellas, the :reddit-logo: is thick on this one, it covers them like tar on a pelican after an oil rig disaster

      • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        the Schedule I-V classifications are ostensibly based their potential for abuse ("psychological or physical dependence"), not the subjective experience.

        e: to be clear because this is the internet, the schedule classifications are obviously not evidence based