https://twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/1544409932883181569

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I genuinely don't understand the outrage about burqas. We have uncontroversial laws about public indecency so if someone was wearing clothes outside that were deemed too revealing it would be a crime. Therefore the distinction isn't over freedom it's over where the line is drawn on what counts as too revealing which is a very different argument.

    Also people forget that as recently as the 70's in England women wore headscarves outside as it was regarded as immodest to do otherwise

      • charly4994 [she/her, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        The Amish and Mennonites still have women using bonnets and stuff out in pubic, pretty similar concept and they're ultra-Christians.

        • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Some of the craziest parties I’ve been to were thrown by Amish girls on Rumshpringa. No bonnets involved during those lol

            • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              The big thing was these two girls went on Rumshpringa around the same time and found that they were both queer, one a lesbian and one bi. So instead of getting baptized into the church, they left. But there was a long period where their parents believed they were coming home and they’d basically already decided not to.

              So combine that with working in food service, which is already full of party people, especially back-of-house, and then both having crazy high tolerances for alcohol and a bunch of drugs, they were just regulars at these ragers. They showed up at some college parties and some music scene parties and we just kept crossing paths. They’d tend to party hop and after 2 am or so go back home and continue through the night. They invited me back a couple of times. I honestly don’t remember much, but they were good vibes for the most part. I’m pretty sure we all had our fair share of breaking down crying but idk

      • Vncredleader
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        2 years ago

        Yes. The Mitpahat for Jewish women, and various headscarfs in a lot of christian traditions. Today mostly among Antibaptists. For both faiths it was more specifically about during prayers, the Antibaptists making it full time is a distinct difference. Pretty much all denominations expected them to be warn in church at their founding, ie Martin Luthor, Calvin, etc.Roman Catholic woman had to wear head coverings at mass until the 1983 Code of Canon Law though I have no idea if that was enforced outside of Spain, and still today it is sorta expected when meeting the pope.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Well nuns wear habits but in the UK it wasn't a religious thing just the social ideas of what counted as revealing clothing