https://twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/1544409932883181569
same energy as pointing at capitalist dysfunction and saying "what is this, communist China?"
liberals are still mad that afghanistanians rejected their puppet government. Even the south vietnemese government lasted an extra 2 years.
which if the Americans had cared even the tiniest bit about how corrupt that government was it might have lasted longer. Literally as much of the Afghan government's army only existed on the books and officials were just taking the money the Americans sent as military pay and keeping it
Also the Taliban are legitimately more against child marriage than some parts of America as while the practice is common in Afghanistan it's not permitted in the Islamic faith and the Taliban therefore take a stance against it (as far as an organisation like that can take a unified stance they aren't exactly a well run bureacracy) The Taliban of course are still awful and you do not have to hand it to them but they aren't barbaric savages and Islam is a serious religion that should be respected
Very low energy post from washed up psycho Bette Midler. Sad!
I think we can do without jokingly adopting the language of a fascist, thanks.
why is every one of your posts lib tone policing like this.
quoting the big wet president is tradition here
I saw someone else say that on another post but I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt and ask
who upbeared this lib shit though
I hate seeing the baby brain that looks at these 9 people with so much power and instead of saying something like it shouldn't exist, they choose instead to Photoshop the currently bad ones.
We don't need this branch of government.
I don't know any American muslims that look like this, do you? But if there were six muslims on the Supreme Court I wouldn't even be mad.
Getting mad for the imaginary muslim in your head and muslim internet larpers is sus. I thought the dirtbag left was better than this? And when I think about the actual, existing people I know who this image will outrage, it puts a smile on my face.
i live in a country that has probably twice as many muslim immigrants as the us and i've seen two women in niqquabs and one in a burka in my entire life. two of them within the same week, at the same busy metropolitan subway station, immediately after the US invaded afghanistan. made me think it was a CIA psyop even back then.
I genuinely don't understand the outrage about burqas. We have uncontroversial laws about public indecency so if someone was wearing clothes outside that were deemed too revealing it would be a crime. Therefore the distinction isn't over freedom it's over where the line is drawn on what counts as too revealing which is a very different argument.
Also people forget that as recently as the 70's in England women wore headscarves outside as it was regarded as immodest to do otherwise
The Amish and Mennonites still have women using bonnets and stuff out in pubic, pretty similar concept and they're ultra-Christians.
Some of the craziest parties I’ve been to were thrown by Amish girls on Rumshpringa. No bonnets involved during those lol
The big thing was these two girls went on Rumshpringa around the same time and found that they were both queer, one a lesbian and one bi. So instead of getting baptized into the church, they left. But there was a long period where their parents believed they were coming home and they’d basically already decided not to.
So combine that with working in food service, which is already full of party people, especially back-of-house, and then both having crazy high tolerances for alcohol and a bunch of drugs, they were just regulars at these ragers. They showed up at some college parties and some music scene parties and we just kept crossing paths. They’d tend to party hop and after 2 am or so go back home and continue through the night. They invited me back a couple of times. I honestly don’t remember much, but they were good vibes for the most part. I’m pretty sure we all had our fair share of breaking down crying but idk
Yes. The Mitpahat for Jewish women, and various headscarfs in a lot of christian traditions. Today mostly among Antibaptists. For both faiths it was more specifically about during prayers, the Antibaptists making it full time is a distinct difference. Pretty much all denominations expected them to be warn in church at their founding, ie Martin Luthor, Calvin, etc.Roman Catholic woman had to wear head coverings at mass until the 1983 Code of Canon Law though I have no idea if that was enforced outside of Spain, and still today it is sorta expected when meeting the pope.
Well nuns wear habits but in the UK it wasn't a religious thing just the social ideas of what counted as revealing clothing
I remember going to a Palestine protest in nyc, and talking to the Muslims that I met there. Many of them had gone to a pro-sex workers protest just a few days before, and these were men. People really underestimate the progressive currents within the American Muslim population, especially among the youth.
So I'm definitely guilty of having done this in the past. Mostly because I was fucking pissed that we spent all of 2003-2016 arguing with liberals and or chuds, that Muslims deserved to have a right to practice their religion, while the entire country / continent became more and more openly racist. Part of that debate was the fake concern-trolling about countries in the Middle East having shitty womens rights, and then these fucking pricks turn around and immediately implement Biblical doctrine, based entirely on their own completely made up interpretations of the bible. I will admit, it was pretty funny to see the most avowed anti-feminists make the same arguments that Wahabists make, which is why I've made these comparisons in the past, but I've given up on making the argument that they're hypocrites. Chuds are functionally immune from being called hypocrites by virtue of being dumber than rocks, so I'm just gonna stop making these comparisons anymore.
immediately implement Biblical doctrine, based entirely on their own completely made up interpretations of the bible
what no one considers when talking about historical abortion laws is that safe abortion is a recent thing and in the past it had a high likelyhood of killing the women so there was a danger of quacks misleading women about the risks involved in a proceedure that seemingly solved all their problems
There are so many angles to this debate, and seemingly none of them support the positions of the Anti-abortion crowd. Also, I happen to not be Christian, so I don't particularly care about what the Bible says about Abortion, since I by definition am not bound by it. I am however bound by the laws that these freaks are pushing out, which is scaring the crap out of me.
The Bible pretty much doesn't mention abortion.
The really stupid part is that bans on abortion don't even particularly help prevent abortions what does is cheaper housing and support for parents in poverty. For all of the cruelty and invective in this argument it's telling that no one is able to think outside the bounds of "I think it's wrong so it should be dealt with via the criminal system" instead of thinking on what would actually achieve the goal they want
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/3415/ literally all abortion bans do is increase the rate at which the women getting them die the cruelty is the point
The trial of bitter water could be interpreted as an abortion ritual in the Old Testament but I forget the logic people use to deflect away from it. Ironically it was the printing press and translating the Bible that led to major reforms in the church but nowadays it seems like nobody actually reads the damn thing and just put anything they want in it. Homosexuality is equivalent to eating shellfish in it but they'll rage about "the gays" while eating shrimp cocktail.
the new testament does actually pretty clearly abolish the no shellfish rule but tatoo's are technically forbidden and no one cares about that.
Also the reforms weren't all positive witchcraft trials really took off as a part of the protestant reformation whereas previously the idea that people could do magic was regarded as heresy and therefore belief in witches and witchcraft trials was not inline with church teachings
Yeah I made this argument once to a conservative Catholic and he eventually just said "I don't care; they deserve it. They shouldn't have had sex." It's just misogyny, not morality like they claim.
Ah yes Jesus famously in favor of punishing people and not forgiving them. It's not like Jesus introduced himself as a public religious figure by prevented a mob from stoning an adulteress to death or anything
:jesus-cleanse:
I dunno about the imagery because I’m neither middle eastern nor Muslim, so I’d love to hear some opinions on that from people who have some relevant lived experiences.
That said, the Y’all Quaeda jokes must flow
Even from a perspective that isnt directly related to that, its bad because its still just more libshit projection and denial of American homegrown issues as "foreign".
Ah okay, yeah. I thought of it as pointing out the hypocrisy of people who oppose far-right groups abroad while supporting far right groups domestically. But I suppose it’s still associating the imagery. Like it others people who very much represent the ingroup
Even "y'all" is stupid there because they are a bunch of fucking northeastern ivy league freaks or whatever
I’m in a Trump country area of a northern blue state, so “y’all” probably has different connotations for me. Around here, the people who say “y’all” are the upper middle class folks whose dads have shiny current-year off-road pickups that they drive 10 minutes to work and back each day. They’re doing an affect thing. The more poor rural people tend to be very softspoken and have a dialect that’s distinct, but also audibly northern. So maybe the weird classism is just baked into my understanding of the word because it’s not the second person plural that my dialect uses by default.
Regardless, I am definitely reconsidering all this
Oh that's weird, but I suppose it's similar to a lot of places outside the south, where conservatives just picked up shit-tier country music in the last 15 years and started driving trucks
But I think the thing people think of usually when they hear y'all qaida is an association with southerners
hungary, while having plenty of its own brainworms (nothing special, they're remixes of the usual) is currently also suffering from american brainworms. orban hired republican strategists to help him win way back when. his PR is based on the lessons learned in the US in iirc the 90s.
so even with hungary, it's a bit like the mirror looking back at them :)
The Vatican
:thinking-about-it: ruled by councils of catholic geriatrics with a figurehead oldest catholic geriatric
To which my response has been, at least the faqihs on the Guardian Council are extremely honest about their religiosity.
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