The really stupid part is that bans on abortion don't even particularly help prevent abortions what does is cheaper housing and support for parents in poverty. For all of the cruelty and invective in this argument it's telling that no one is able to think outside the bounds of "I think it's wrong so it should be dealt with via the criminal system" instead of thinking on what would actually achieve the goal they want
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/3415/
literally all abortion bans do is increase the rate at which the women getting them die the cruelty is the point
The trial of bitter water could be interpreted as an abortion ritual in the Old Testament but I forget the logic people use to deflect away from it. Ironically it was the printing press and translating the Bible that led to major reforms in the church but nowadays it seems like nobody actually reads the damn thing and just put anything they want in it. Homosexuality is equivalent to eating shellfish in it but they'll rage about "the gays" while eating shrimp cocktail.
the new testament does actually pretty clearly abolish the no shellfish rule but tatoo's are technically forbidden and no one cares about that.
Also the reforms weren't all positive witchcraft trials really took off as a part of the protestant reformation whereas previously the idea that people could do magic was regarded as heresy and therefore belief in witches and witchcraft trials was not inline with church teachings
Yeah I made this argument once to a conservative Catholic and he eventually just said "I don't care; they deserve it. They shouldn't have had sex." It's just misogyny, not morality like they claim.
Ah yes Jesus famously in favor of punishing people and not forgiving them. It's not like Jesus introduced himself as a public religious figure by prevented a mob from stoning an adulteress to death or anything
The Bible pretty much doesn't mention abortion.
The really stupid part is that bans on abortion don't even particularly help prevent abortions what does is cheaper housing and support for parents in poverty. For all of the cruelty and invective in this argument it's telling that no one is able to think outside the bounds of "I think it's wrong so it should be dealt with via the criminal system" instead of thinking on what would actually achieve the goal they want
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/3415/ literally all abortion bans do is increase the rate at which the women getting them die the cruelty is the point
The trial of bitter water could be interpreted as an abortion ritual in the Old Testament but I forget the logic people use to deflect away from it. Ironically it was the printing press and translating the Bible that led to major reforms in the church but nowadays it seems like nobody actually reads the damn thing and just put anything they want in it. Homosexuality is equivalent to eating shellfish in it but they'll rage about "the gays" while eating shrimp cocktail.
the new testament does actually pretty clearly abolish the no shellfish rule but tatoo's are technically forbidden and no one cares about that.
Also the reforms weren't all positive witchcraft trials really took off as a part of the protestant reformation whereas previously the idea that people could do magic was regarded as heresy and therefore belief in witches and witchcraft trials was not inline with church teachings
Yeah I made this argument once to a conservative Catholic and he eventually just said "I don't care; they deserve it. They shouldn't have had sex." It's just misogyny, not morality like they claim.
Ah yes Jesus famously in favor of punishing people and not forgiving them. It's not like Jesus introduced himself as a public religious figure by prevented a mob from stoning an adulteress to death or anything
:jesus-cleanse: