https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2022/07/11/is-the-west-running-out-of-ammunition-to-supply-ukraine/

  • cawsby [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    No country can spend WWII levels of armaments without turning the entire country into a full wartime economy.

    In WWII Russia when taking Berlin fired millions of rockets and missiles. Still to this day some of the largest rocket barrages in warfare. To accomplish that over 10k Russian soldiers were involved in the logistics of getting just those rockets to Germany via train. We are talking about hand packing rockets in rail cars without pallets and then taking them out again on the other side. A staggering amount of manual labor was involved.

    Russia and NATO both have limits for hardware and arms that they will be running up against in the last half of this year. All those cold war treaties in the 1990's dramatically lowered Cold War stocks on both sides. It will take over a decade just to replace the cruise missiles fired so far by Russia. NATO is 18-24 months out on topping up its Stinger and Javelin stocks. Some of the MLRS systems given to Ukraine so far won't be replaced until the late 2020's.

    Neither Russia nor NATO countries have the stomach for a full wartime economy. This conflict will eventually simmer down for a long pause like after 2014. Probably sooner than later.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I guess time will tell. But if there's one thing that US is famous for, its the sudden mass mobilization of the MIC.

      • fox [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, but that was under governments that hadn't gradually privatized and devolved all their power until they were husks that purely funneled taxes into creating orphans overseas

      • cawsby [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Nowhere near the amount of machinists, engineering techs, etc to work in those plants like back in the cold war.

        America has plenty of engineers and scientists, but it would take 12-18 months to train enough folks who actually know how to work the lathes.