• itappearsthat
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    7 months ago

    After learning that Neil Druckmann is a huge zionist I have lost all desire to play that game, even if pirated.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      7 months ago

      Honestly even ignoring the Zionism the HBO series has eliminated any need for the games. Those games were already very TV-like and the TV show accomplishes everything the game does more effectively in less time

  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    I played this game before I became a whole socialism, and I felt really weird and unpleasant about it but couldn't really put a finger on why I hated it and its goofyass commentary on violence. Finding out that it's a tale rooted in ideas of lib zionism was like lifting the veil, made so much sense.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      7 months ago

      Yeah I very specifically remember near the end of the game where Ellie is living her cottagecore dream with her loving wife and child and then goes on her revenge trip despite her wife begging her not to.

      And the game treats it like it’s inevitable, like “It’s tragic and maybe we should be better, but this is how we’d all act given this chance for revenge killing” and I was just thinking “No??? I wouldn’t do that at all??? I would stay on my beautiful farm with my loving wife and child!”

      And then I found out it was written by a Zionist and that made a loooot more sense

      • ashinadash [she/her]
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        7 months ago

        I know right??? The TLOU games quickly become games about people with semi-understandable motivations becoming the most absolutely insane supermurderers killing their way through literal thousands of random people on their murderquests. And then the game wants YOU to feel bad about it after Ellie kills some lady with a lead pipe in cutscene? After she has killed hundreds of randoms already??? "The cycle of violence" more like fervent zionist bloodlust madeline-smug

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        7 months ago

        Honestly I always felt games and entertainment that had monsters/zombies etc but always did the "humans are teh basterds all aloooong" thing was just the most trite shit ever lifted from some centrist liberal/redditor. Overall I felt Ellie deserved her bad ending and I never felt that bad, Hell I sympathized most with Abby and her friends given they were all fucked over by Joel killing a shit ton of Fireflies in the last game and Ellie knowing about it in the sequel but still going on her revenge spree was just deranged. Even Tommy should have known that him and Joel had created plenty of people that had just reasons to want them dead.

        Tbh though the gunplay and overall gmmeplay systems in the last of us games are well tuned and those devs deserve a raise for having to work underneath a Zionist freak.

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          7 months ago

          Ellie knowing about it in the sequel but still going on her revenge spree was just deranged. Even Tommy should have known that him and Joel had created plenty of people that had just reasons to want them dead.

          And honestly I feel like it clashes with the end of the first game? At the end of the first game Ellie leaves off on “I’m pretty sure he fucking killed those people and the only way I can continue to live with myself is to tell myself that isn’t the truth” and then when the consequences of what she knew happened come to pass she suddenly acts like what Joel did was justified and she wasn’t upset by it in the first place and Joel is the victim actually.

          • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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            7 months ago

            Yup, there's also the alternative interpretation

            spoiler

            which is Ellie went on her rampage because she was denied closure with Joel over this lie but then it turns out she knew all along and told him she would try and forgive him

            The first game had a great story when it was seen as an examination of what was a truly sad and heart breaking ending, in which Ellie was denied doing something good for humanity and Joel was unable to go on without a replacement daughter to live for, i.e. "would you go against the wishes of your replacement goldfish/daughter even though she was fine sacrificing herself for humanity if given the option while also murdering a ton of people". Should honestly have known the dude was a reddit brained author when the second game made the Fireflies all "morally ambiguous".