My best friend from second grade got me watch a Rubin video with the IDW. It was like a hour long circle jerk where no one says anything particularly interesting or noteworthy. We paused it a few times to talk about our thoughts. After it ends, dude starts talking cancel culture explaining that if everyone gets canceled no one will speak, then talks about the absurdity of 36 genders.

I almost lost my patience when he was waffling on giving nazis platforms.

Any advice to move from chud central ?

    • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      He’s bought into the idea that protesting controversial speakers at public universities shouldn’t occur because that doesn’t allow “open debate” It did make him think more when I mentioned that it’s probably a good thing a neo-nazi doesn’t get to speak because there is nothing to discuss or reason with and that it was akin to debating a climate change denier.

    • Sushi_Desires
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      4 years ago

      Isn’t the entire point of the marketplace of ideals that if you have a bad ideal the “market” will relegate you to the dump?

      :100-com:

    • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The Shapiro response vids from hbomberguy and philosophytube are good so we can do that next week. One of the things he’s done is that he has a created “leftists” in his head who decide what is and what isn’t allowable speech such that it disallows controversy altogether even potentially scientific dialogues (he thinks IQ measures intelligence except when he says it doesn’t)

      • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Shaun has a good video on The Bell Curve that also goes into what a sham IQ is.

          • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Me too! There was a whole lot going on and I'm not sure I took it all in. Revisiting it sometime is probably a good idea for me too.

        • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I’m not gender studies expert and neither is he but he railed against it nonetheless as being a useless field of study based on the potential financial success of a graduate. I was getting tired last night just said that “if you’re saying it’s unimportant then let others do what they will and have their speech, it doesn’t infringe on you at all.”

          He didn’t buy it. He even asked “why should we care because they (LGBTQ folks) are not even a large percentage of the population?”

          The sort of level of inhumanity here is pretty bleak. Even that caught me off guard.

  • Gamerguy420 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Just show him an episode of chapotraphouse where they make fun of a liberal, someone who's super annoying. Then with any luck coax him towards an episode on ben shapiro or jordan peterson. If you sat through an hour video with him, he should sit through an hour podcast with you (marketplace of ideas). Maybe go to a youtube video with funny pictures going by idk.

    • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I like this idea, but I might go breadtube instead of chapo, since he seems to like watching videos. Contrapoints has a good one on Jordan Peterson, for example.

      • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yesss I forgot about her video on Peterson. I’m worried that if I go for him though it might turn him off because he is a fan smh

        I think I’m going to go against Shapiro since he is the low hanging fruit at least in relation to the video we saw yesterday

        • Lrak [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah plus if he has "36 genders lol" brain he will disregard her opinion because she is "mentally ill" or some bullshit.

  • ShroomunistTendancy [any]
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    4 years ago

    I won't pretend to understand STEM ppl or logic

    but isn't it the case that 36 is better than 16 is better than 8 for these people? and therefore 256 genders is probably the optimum?

    • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      We didn’t get into the gender thing other than me saying it’s a social construct and he agreed but then replied with “well let’s discuss Gender/sex phenotype.” He shifted the meaning of gender

      Edit: also number go up

    • lena [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I'd love if their only problem with 36 genders was, that the number is not a power of 2.

  • Tychoxii [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDiz931d1K4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTztFjVME08

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f50IF8cgTF0