For instance, the Civ games are basically Whig History: The Game, presenting liberal capitalism as the ideal end point for all societies. It even includes uncivilized "barbarian tribes" whose sole purpose is to be exterminated so you can take their land for the glory of capitalism.

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    Fire Emblem is one big monarchist circlejerk; the nobility and those allied with them are beautiful, graceful, wise, and generous, while those oppose them are grotesque savages that you mercilessly slaughter without a second thought. Kings, queens, princes, and princesses have superior (even divine) abilities because it is their birthright to rule. The end of the game always ends with some royal being enthroned and this is always portrayed as some epochal victory, a restoration of the natural order. These are the sorts of games the Romanovs would have played. Yeah it's just a video game, but then you go on monarchist forums and Fire Emblem is like one of the top fucking things cited in "what made you a monarchist?" type threads. They are some of the most reactionary games around.

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      • wombat [none/use name]
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        not to mention the recurring incest fetish stuff throughout the series, which is always portrayed as desirable and romantic

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        • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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          I thought Geneology did a pretty good job with how it handled it and it wasn't treated as a good thing either. I think Kaga leaving really brought the story quality down and Fates made it worse with their weird fetish shit.

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          i think that's only fates, which is maybe the worst written game i've ever played, even discounting the conversion therapy and incest and gross handling of the child characters

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        The entire existence of Nowi is just straight up :epstein: , not just bordering lol. I want to pair off all my characters so I can get their kids but I have no idea whether to pair a however many old dragon that looks 12 with the younger seeming characters or the older seeming ones. It haunted me.

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        • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
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          that game is much more about prejudice and preconceived notions than anything thematically, it just has a fantasy aesthetic

          • wombat [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Path of Radiance is literally about restoring a monarchy, Ike is a class traitor if anything

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                and I find the whole notion that Path of Radiance or Radiant Dawn challenges "preconceived notions" hilarious because the good characters are still all beautiful and kind and majestic while the bad guys are ugly inbred troglodytes. You can literally tell who's good or bad in half a second just by observing if their face has a visible deformity.

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                It's literally a feudalist society how is Ike a class traitor? what is he to do?
                In the second game he literally sides with the opressed Laguz.
                He is restoring a monarchy and independecne back to a tiny nation that has been taken over by another larger more powerful empire in the first game.
                is he suppose to materialize the conditions for a bourgeoise or prolitarian revolution out of thin air??
                this shit is stupid.

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                  • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
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                    So what your saying is Ike should of materialized the conditions for doing away with feudalism out of thin air. :very-smart:

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      I've noticed that some Japanese media follows this pattern where the fundamental hierarchy or political structure is never really questioned.

      Take Naruto for instance. All ninja villages in Naruto are within a land which is ruled by a daimyo. Naruto goes through the entire journey of an outcast saving the world and turning it into a "utopia" and yet the fundamental political structure doesn't really change. Is the daimyo overthrown, considering that Naruto and Co are way stronger than the ruler of the land? Nope! Is the concept of ninja villages and one autocrat ruling over them changed? Nope!