Many people are saying it folks: 4 degrees of warming by the end of the century (even as soon as 2070s) is a real possibility. How much longer do you think the :lmayo: countries in the north can hang on under these conditions?

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Nah that’s the thing, the flying apart spectacularly is rare. There’ll be big events, be if from weather or social collapse, but even those will only be the end of everything for the people directly effected, for everyone else it’s the status quo but worse.

    When the collapse makes you into a refugee either because of a heatwave so bad your town is uninhabitable, or a hurricane or a bomb destroys your house, it’ll reasonably feel like everything flying apart spectacularly, but to everyone else it’s just another news headline and another instance of the same but worse.

    • pumpchilienthusiast [comrade/them, any]
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      2 years ago

      When I say "flies apart spectacularly" I don't mean "we all decide at 12:00 GMT on Tuesday to stand up, don our hockey masks and chaps, and maraude in our Australian muscle cars," but that systems will continue to work until they can't any more and then the pressure/stress has to be released. I'm sure the Eastern Bloc in 1988 felt everything was going to be same but worse forever but things got real weird real fast starting in 1989.

      • ElChango [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I don’t mean “we all decide at 12:00 GMT on Tuesday to stand up, don our hockey masks and chaps, and maraude in our Australian muscle cars,”

        well, but...uh, that's not entirely out the question tho, right? I mean i'm down. "Thunderdome Tuesdays"

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          There's a festival in Nevada where people do this for a long weekend every year. It's called "Wasteland Weekend". The Humongous usually shows up and makes people pancakes.

      • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        we all decide at 12:00 GMT on Tuesday to stand up, don our hockey masks and chaps, and maraude in our Australian muscle cars

        Well it's on my calendar now.

    • Norm_Chumpsky [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yes, this is like how people misunderstand the fall of the Roman Empire. It wasn't a sudden cataclysm that made it collapse overnight, or even a few years. It was hundreds of years of slow decline leading up to that. For the periphery of the empire, collapse came much more quickly than the imperial core, it's not as if everyone had the same collective experience.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      the flying apart spectacularly is rare.

      Global warming is a disaster with no precedent in history. It's a disaster that is happening everywhere in the entire world without exception, effecting planetary systems that usually take tens or hundreds of thousands of years to change. It's happening in step with the Sixth Great Extinction and an ever more precarious global economy. And it's accelerating much, much faster than even recent worst case predictions.