Just truly a piece of shit. The most powerful man in the world can't even bother to get a fucking dog trainer and a dog walker so his large dangerous dog isn't a menace to everyone around it.

Like, there's a lot of important and systemic reasons to hate biden, or to have no respect for biden, but this is an intensely personal distaste of mine. Fucking pathetic.

Also, if this is just Fox making shit up don't tell me because I am savoring this.

  • bigboopballs [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I hate dogs. I wish they weren't marketed so hard as something eVErY fAmiLy MuSt OwN and "man's best friend"

    • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I agree with the last sentence. Dogs should only live in certain conditions, not be cooped in houses/apartments which is what most people do.

    • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      I hate dogs

      :downbear:

      EDIT: unless you have a personal reason. I thought about this for a while, and truth be told, I was actually afraid of dogs for 95% of my life until recently.

    • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Nah I get it. There are bad pet owners of all stripes, but dogs are the only common pet that's actually dangerous to able-bodied adult humans if the owner doesn't train it or actively fucks it up somehow. There is no regulation requiring dog training and no state-sponsored programs to help owners. If someone has a dangerous dog it won't be taken away until after it hurts someone. (If you're the president it'll keep going forever.)

      Also, dogs need to be walked. Because of this they have more contact with strange humans than an indoor cat, bird, hamster, etc. A lot of people let their dogs hang out in the backyard; when I was a toddler I was nearly mauled when my neighbor's dog jumped the fence to get at me.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        There are bad pet owners of all stripes, but dogs are the only common pet that’s actually dangerous to able-bodied adult humans if the owner doesn’t train it or actively fucks it up somehow.

        There is also an unfortunate correlation where the people who seek out the most dangerous and aggressive dogs do so for the intimidation factor and don't train those dogs properly.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          there's a strong correlation between wanting a dog because it's scary and being a dumbass who shouldn't be trusted to be responsible for a potentially dangerous animal

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      2 years ago

      Right there with you, even well trained dogs are a loud smelly drooly sensory nightmare, and very few are well trained.

      It's not the dog's fault that they're badly socialized but on the other hand I don't like being charged by a hundred pound territorial animal while taking out the trash.

      Plus their affection isn't really earned it's just something you get by occasionally feeding them. Getting a dog's endorsement means virtually nothing, but if a cat likes you it means you understand consent and withdrawal of consent. Probably why all my chud neighbors have dogs, they like being the boss of something that will tolerate abuse

      • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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        2 years ago

        Not true at all. Some dogs are drooly and smelly, but most dogs are only smelly if you don’t wash them. Most dog breeds aren’t massive droolers.

        The feeding thing is also not true. Studies have shown time and time again that with most animals the primary feeder is not necessarily their favourite. The bonding time matters.

        What I’m about to say is of course anecdotal, but when I go home for Christmas I see my childhood dogs. They choose to sleep in my room over anyone else’s when I’m there even though I’m not the one that feeds them most of the time. I’m the one that rolls around in the grass with them and takes them on the longest walks.

        You are right about chuds liking dogs because they handle abuse better than cats though. Partially it’s because most dogs can’t fend themselves in the wild as well as a cat, so they can’t have as much independence. They’re also pack animals, so they just accept that their pack leader is a brute.

        • crime [she/her, any]
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          2 years ago

          Every dog I've ever met has smelled terrible. Even if they're not drooly they're always a little slimy and damp and bad at personal space, whether that's jumping or sticking their noses in my crotch. They're also prone to sudden bursts of ear splitting noises in addition to the horrible smells. Dog people don't usually notice how bad they and their home and their belongings smell because they're used to the dog smell, but let me assure you that I can tell if a dog lives inside a house the second someone opens the door.

          I'm sure dogs pick favorites based on quality time like that but they will still like you even if you neglect them, as evidenced by all the dogs kept in outdoor cages in my neighborhood not maiming their owners when they're finally released from dog jail, so it's really not an endorsement of character to have a dog like you. I really don't care for dogs and I've met so many that love me almost instantly anyway.

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            , as evidenced by all the dogs kept in outdoor cages in my neighborhood not maiming their owners when they’re finally released from dog jail

            a dog not attacking someone and a dog liking them are different things altogether

          • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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            2 years ago

            You speak of them as if they’re some alien breed. I hear cats fighting in the streets all the time at night. I don’t mind it. Animals just being animals. Dogs barking is their way of communicating and they have just as much of a right to do so as us, even if sometimes theirs seems a bit aimless. Yeah, shush your dog if it’s barking incessantly, but we make way more noise than them on the daily with our cars, loud music, or even just shouting ‘DINNER!!!!’ to the household. They’re bad at personal space if someone doesn’t train them to respect it. They’re fast learners. The ones that do jump keep jumping in peoples laps because it’s usually met with people fawning over them. It’s the same as a naughty child who has parents who don’t discipline them. Pretty simple classical conditioning can alter a dogs behaviour most of the time unless said behaviour has been learnt through trauma.

            When it comes to abuse - many people put up with and love their abusers. How could you expect a dog to know of independence from its owner when it’s never experienced or even seen the possibilities of what goes on between dogs and their owners in other homes. I wouldn’t rag on an abused person for not stabbing their abuser, and I wouldn’t rag on a dog for not biting theirs. Cycles of abuse are incredibly complex.

            • crime [she/her, any]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah I get why they bark and why they behave the way that they do, but those behaviors are super annoying and dog people always act like you're a monster for not loving those loud, smelly, personal space invaders. Rather than trying to understand that sudden barking and horrible smells are not for everyone they just make excuses about it, often while implying that it's the fault of the person who feels that way for having problems with those behaviors.

              I have less than zero interest in having kids in part for the same reasons — they're loud, smelly balls of sensory overload that don't understand boundaries, and I'm too autistic to deal with that.

          • CommunistBear [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I really don’t care for dogs and I’ve met so many that love me almost instantly anyway.

            They knew you had a good heart :Care-Comrade:

          • TechnologyMoth [comrade/them,any]
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            2 years ago

            I love cats but feel the same way about the smell as you do with dogs. As soon as I walk into a house with cats, it's like a sensory bomb of piss and dander. Like I said above, very few people who have dogs, like maybe 5%, should even be allowed to have them. I'd prefer similar strict requirements for all pets including cats. Also, outdoor cats, 100% banned lol. Hoarding pets is more common than a lot of people realize and always results in neglect and abuse.

            • crime [she/her, any]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah those are all problems except the smell I don't get where you're coming from - cats are self cleaning (don't need to be washed regularly like dogs) and unless they're non-neutered male cats they don't piss outside their box. If you have a normal number of cats there really isn't a smell

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Plus their affection isn’t really earned it’s just something you get by occasionally feeding them

        that's not true a dog does respond to abuse they are complex social animals not machines that have a single input. Abuse is very bad for dogs psychologically I've owned dogs where I'm sure if anyone ever abused them they'd shut down forever because they're that soppy.

        Also abusing a dangerous dog is immensely stupid as now you have a scared animal and nothing is more likely to attack someone than a scared animal.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      2 years ago

      I have a more positive view of them, but you aren't wrong at all and I hate how we view dogs as a culture. The prevelance of dogs that also just suck is super annoying. Oh cool you have a tiny dog that will yap super loud and jumps on your windows. It doesn't kill rats so why did you get it? Why do you think me cat is mean because she won't spend time with you, she hasn't attacked.

      • Wheaties [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        It doesn’t kill rats so why did you get it?

        can't speak for everyone but

        'cus I gots the 'ronna nose

          • Wheaties [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Dogs have a good sense of smell. He's my smelling-nose-dog.

            also i love him

            • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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              2 years ago

              I can't really think of a scenario where I'd need a dog to smell something I couldn't, but if it works for you it works for you.

    • TechnologyMoth [comrade/them,any]
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      2 years ago

      I love dogs, but most people shouldn't have them, and all puppy mills should have been shut down a long time ago. I think education, training, and certification should be required to have one. If someone isn't willing to go through those steps, they won't be able to take care of a large animal.

      • bigboopballs [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        agreed. hate how they were marketed to the boomer generation as a stupid status symbol that every white picket fence family in the suburbs has to have.