Strange New Worlds has been okay but also shitty, I wish there were a law preventing writers from straight up plagiarizing old episodes i.e. episode 4 is just another TOS "we're in space but it's a submarine battle" episode. I haven't watched episode 10 but apparently they literally just re-do Balance of Terror except diplomacy works except that's bad because romulans don't respect it and restart war with earth so i guess the moral is we need to blow stuff up for peace or something.
One episode would have been great but only because it was a rip off of The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas but then they fucking Lib it up by refusing to flatly answer "No, our society is beyond such horrors" when they go "are there really no children in misery in the federation?"
I've heard The Orville has shed much of its Seth MacFarlane family guy bullshit so I guess it's the only good new star Trek we're ever gonna get
The first season of Orville was practically Friends, what with how much time they fixated on the sexual tension between the various crew members. But it still managed to do good Sci-Fi in between MacFarlane's cheesy jokes.
Second Season Orville was TNG quality episodes with MacFarlane playing it more-or-less straight the whole time. The rest of the cast is great. The writing is solid. The story arcs keep you invested in the overall plot, without denying the show the ability to be episodic in the mid-season.
Third Season is flat out great. High Sci-Fi premise, uncompromisingly good politics, excellent acting, excellent special effects. They do send the entire officer's crew into a giant space anus without giving them so much as space suits, but if you kinda try not to think about that too much, its a flawless Star Trek spin-off.
They do send the entire officer’s crew into a giant space anus without giving them so much as space suits, but if you kinda try not to think about that too much, its a flawless Star Trek spin-off.
Strange New Worlds is definitely the best of the modern Treks (admittedly a low bar) which makes its disappointing moments all the more sad. I don't even mind plagiarizing old episodes, tbh. It sort of reminds me how retelling classic fables or myths can be fun - I'm thinking of things like the game Hades which used characters we're all familiar with in a really unique way.
Episode 10 spoilers
They just can't fucking get away from the "save the universe" plot can they? One of the reasons why I thought SNW was refreshing was because it seemed to have shed the idea that every episode and season must constantly escalate to higher and higher stakes, but then episode 10 comes along and makes Spock a Vulcan Messiah. It's really tiring how limited the writers' imaginations are with all of these prequels and sequels.
I tried giving The Orville a shot but I hate Seth McFarlane's style so much that I stopped after an episode
Just jump straight to Season 2. MacFarlane dumps his shtick somewhere around the halfway mark of Season 1 and the rest of the cast carries the show past him. By Season 3, he's just another Star Trek Officer Guy played completely straight.
The show is too good to miss just because it was birthed out of the Family Guy womb and still has a bit of placenta sticking to it.
Just want to second zifnab that it might be worth skipping to later episodes of the orville because it does get less bothersome with the humor and the divorcee-bickering bullshit
Strange New Worlds has been okay but also shitty, I wish there were a law preventing writers from straight up plagiarizing old episodes i.e. episode 4 is just another TOS "we're in space but it's a submarine battle" episode. I haven't watched episode 10 but apparently they literally just re-do Balance of Terror except diplomacy works except that's bad because romulans don't respect it and restart war with earth so i guess the moral is we need to blow stuff up for peace or something.
One episode would have been great but only because it was a rip off of The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas but then they fucking Lib it up by refusing to flatly answer "No, our society is beyond such horrors" when they go "are there really no children in misery in the federation?"
I've heard The Orville has shed much of its Seth MacFarlane family guy bullshit so I guess it's the only good new star Trek we're ever gonna get
The first season of Orville was practically Friends, what with how much time they fixated on the sexual tension between the various crew members. But it still managed to do good Sci-Fi in between MacFarlane's cheesy jokes.
Second Season Orville was TNG quality episodes with MacFarlane playing it more-or-less straight the whole time. The rest of the cast is great. The writing is solid. The story arcs keep you invested in the overall plot, without denying the show the ability to be episodic in the mid-season.
Third Season is flat out great. High Sci-Fi premise, uncompromisingly good politics, excellent acting, excellent special effects. They do send the entire officer's crew into a giant space anus without giving them so much as space suits, but if you kinda try not to think about that too much, its a flawless Star Trek spin-off.
Wow it's just like Star Trek :strangelove-wow:
Strange New Worlds is definitely the best of the modern Treks (admittedly a low bar) which makes its disappointing moments all the more sad. I don't even mind plagiarizing old episodes, tbh. It sort of reminds me how retelling classic fables or myths can be fun - I'm thinking of things like the game Hades which used characters we're all familiar with in a really unique way.
Episode 10 spoilers
They just can't fucking get away from the "save the universe" plot can they? One of the reasons why I thought SNW was refreshing was because it seemed to have shed the idea that every episode and season must constantly escalate to higher and higher stakes, but then episode 10 comes along and makes Spock a Vulcan Messiah. It's really tiring how limited the writers' imaginations are with all of these prequels and sequels.
I tried giving The Orville a shot but I hate Seth McFarlane's style so much that I stopped after an episode
Just jump straight to Season 2. MacFarlane dumps his shtick somewhere around the halfway mark of Season 1 and the rest of the cast carries the show past him. By Season 3, he's just another Star Trek Officer Guy played completely straight.
The show is too good to miss just because it was birthed out of the Family Guy womb and still has a bit of placenta sticking to it.
Just want to second zifnab that it might be worth skipping to later episodes of the orville because it does get less bothersome with the humor and the divorcee-bickering bullshit