• joshieecs [he/him,any]
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    Bootlickers on every twitter thread jacking off to the brutality, cheering on the violence, mocking the protesters. Like... they aren't even fighting back or resisting. If they were the cops would get wrecked just by the sheer numbers. There aren't enough cops in the country to control the situation if people decided to actually resist instead of sucking it up and hoping that by exposing the injustice, someone will do something: the "nonviolence" strategy. Though I don't see anyone willing to do much of anything. Starting to think the whole "nonviolence" thing is just a load of bullshit, and Mao was right about political power.

    At what point do we assess whether or not the protests have failed, and find some new tactic? Six months? A year? After everyone has racked up so many bullshit charges they'll never get out of jail? So many sentences they have to build makeshift mass prison camps? I couldn't speculate on what those tactics might be in polite company, but if you are going to get brutalized and charged with felonies, quite possibly disappeared or murdered in the following weeks or months, you might as well go for the gold, baby!

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        I think in the Civil Rights era, where you have a small minority of the population trying to appeal to the morality of the majority, it was a reasonable tactic. Had they tried to resist they would've been slaughtered. But even then, the nonviolence movement was only possible due to peripheral armed organizing.

        But the situation today is that the police are the minority, and the protesters would be the superior force if they organized even a little bit. I don't honestly believe very many of the pigs are ready to die for their cause. But they can act with impunity because virtually no one actually resists.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          Yeah the non-violence professed by people like MLK was only effective because there was an underlying understanding that shutting them down would only push people into more militant organizations.

          • joshieecs [he/him,any]
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            Not only that, but there were plenty of armed people on the sidelines, ready to jump in if anyone messed with the nonviolent demonstrators. You read the stories, and it's like, the nonviolence group of students would come into today, and the local hosts would take turns sitting in the window all night with a loaded rifle, in case any klan or the like wanted to come by and cause trouble. I read This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible and recommend it highly, great book if you are interested.

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      if people decided to actually resist instead of sucking it up and hoping that by exposing the injustice, someone will do something: the “nonviolence” strategy.

      Apparently no one has tried any actual strategy like MLK or Gandhi. You can't complain about a strategy being bad when you're all just passive libs who do anarkiddies "praxis" that doesn't have any actual political project to change anything specific.

      At what point do we assess whether or not the protests have failed, and find some new tactic?

      1. Have you read Marx?
      2. Have you actually read Marx?
      3. Be honest!

      It seems that the protests haven't even gotten past the zeroth level, sad!