So we got some references to Bannon talking about gamers, writer comparing the Communist Party members that had to go underground because of Mccarthy and the feds hunting for them to D&D nerds that met in their parents basement as LARPing revolutionaries playing make believe in their heads as Stalin ate all the grain in the USSR, and some kind of dumb shit about how hero worship is bad and pagan and why hero worshipping Jesus is good amd wholesome

  • Candidate [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I thought Sola Fide was just a Lutheran thing? Don't most christian denominations say that you actually have to be virtuous + believe in god to go to heaven?

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Nope, this would be considered "faith by works" to evangelicals and other conservative protestants in the US, which they would consider to be heretical.

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        2 years ago

        This. I have a family member who’s basically a fundie.

        They’re always banging on about any church that claims you can buy your way in through some kind of work or through money. Thinks that’s always the devil leading people astray bc it contradicts that letting jesus into your heart is enough to save you.

      • Candidate [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        But that's not a majority of christians, there are more Catholics than there are protestants.

      • Ehud [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        which they would consider to be heretical.

        Ironic if nothing else.

        Hot take, american protestants are the trotskyites of christianity.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I thought that was a Protestant thing in general. With calvanists believing in predestination, and quoting wiki the Catholic view could perhaps be interpreted as a progression or flow: first grace, then initial trust/repentance/conversion, then faith/hope/charity, combined with an emphasis that none of these elements should be isolated thus missing the package.

      • Candidate [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, looking into it, Calvinists believe it too. I should have probably specified Luther himself, not specifically Lutherans.

    • Parzivus [any]
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      2 years ago

      The general idea is that believing in Christ is enough to get you into heaven, but if you do actually believe in him, you would be inclined to do the good deeds he preached anyway.