Funny if true.
The Western 'free' population is one of the most information censored/restricted populations in the world, and yet they are flabbergasted that China and many many other nations won't allow propaganda from western oligarchs into their country. It doesn't matter that an information firewall is the single most important military defense against the Capitalist information war. That's btw why the western world are propagandizing their population for 'free speech', so we all can see that wevil China don't want free propaganda, sorry, speech.
The most amazing and Incredible is how hateful attitudes can be bought for a few propaganda dollars in the western for profit information market. So western people actually believe all the hateful things the western oligarchy says about China (and ALL the other enemies of the oligarchs).
How convenient and completely coincidental that the western population have the same opinions about nations and world leaders as the top elite.. Could it be that.. nooooo.. no no.. Western news are the BEST, and no Capitalist elite would lie about something like that to their own population, oh no no..
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you are trash and in a just world you and your family and those that supported you would be dead
Super normal thing to say to people who are sick of being inundated with dehumanizing propaganda from a genocidal empire.
I imagine that the dynamic here is reminiscent of the western media's self-censorship. Western journalists learn to conform to certain standards and topics because they understand what kinds of articles are more likely to be published and advance their careers. This is largely influenced by the preferences of media company owners and advertisers, creating a selection pressure for content producers to conform to these expectations.
In contrast, in China, censors strive to identify potentially politically sensitive content and tend to err on the side of more aggressive censorship. This is due to the understanding that being overly cautious in such matters will not result in negative consequences, encouraging a more conservative approach to content regulation.
Wow, stop saying sensible things. Be less correct. Thanks!
He's such a fantastic moron, I already read this dog down for filth.
oh my goodness, you're right. ghyna is just evil and we shouldn't think any harder into the dynamics and inner workings at play. i am smart
Does anyone know a reliable site for checking? This is just a random one I found: http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=lemmy.ml
lemmy.world seems to not be blocked. I have no idea how they make these decisions 🤷
Edit to add: FWIW Wikipedia has a short list of test sites: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_mainland_China#External_links
Interesting. It wasn’t when I tested it yesterday or several weeks ago using this: http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=hexbear.net
But I have no idea if these tools are any good. This one seems to indicate that it’s accessible but very slow https://www.dotcom-tools.com/china-firewall-test/
It might be discussion of piracy/VPNs or something like that. China's got rules about that stuff too AFAIK. Maybe if one of the admins can read/write Simplified Chinese they could reach out to the relevant government bureau and request clarification.
Why would State Capitalists allow discussions about actual communism? God forbid he people get it into their head to form trade unions..
I can't quite tell if this is a parody, the trade union bit makes it seem sincere, but the self-importance to think that lemmy is too left for China to allow is just amazing.
What is left about China? They literally murdered people for demanding the right to establish trade unions (see Tienamin Square)
see Tienamin Square
I'm looking it up, and I don't see any "Tienanmin Square". Could it be "Tiananmen Square" that you're thinking of? The one protesting government corruption? Where unarmed soldiers were burned alive? Where Christian sickos were trying to get students in the line of fire to create atrocity propaganda? Surely there must be some confusion here!
Yes, one of their demands was the right to establish trade unions.
Were the trade unionists the ones immolating unarmed soldiers and stringing up their corpses?
Seriously if that shit happened in the US, the national guard would call in an A-10 gun run on the crowd
You mean like that time white landowners firebombed Tulsa in response to Black Wall Street's creation and thriving? Or how about the time a PD in Philadelphia did the same thing to the MOVE Black liberation group some sixty or so years later? This shit keeps happening and the settlers think they have any room or moral high ground to talk shit 💀💀💀💀💀
What type of society do you think would allow you to burn other people to death and string up their corpses? Is it one that you think would be an improvement over modern China?
point is focus your criticisms on your own society that's 1000x worse than even the most exaggerated crimes about China, cracker. Chinese people aren't children and they can handle their own country in their own way, they don't need some forum poster condescending to them and you don't need a warped preoccupation with a country that probably has nothing to do with you
I stand in solidarity with all oppressed people everywhere, and I will do more than just criticize oppressors
Do you have anything but the most condescending and one-sided "solidarity" for a people who support their government?
I dont stand in solidarity with people who support oppressors, no.
Fortunately most people do not support their government.
Unfortunately for your ideology, most Chinese people support their government:
https://ash.harvard.edu/files/ash/files/final_policy_brief_7.6.2020.pdf
How do you reconcile this? Shall we trot out some paternalisms about "brainwashing" next?
I’m almost disappointed that Xinjiang or secret police stations haven’t been trotted out yet.
January 6th already happened but no consequences did. The US will only deploy violence if the movement is left of whatever their crazy idea of center is.
aww muffin so sorry you're still seething western color revolution failed
i'm sure Chinese people need patronizing crackers from the west to instruct them on what communism actually is
What? I stand with the Chinese people against their oppressors. Criticism of an oppressive State is not criticism of its victims.
...how often do you interact with Chinese people? Whenever I go back home to Wuhan I don't really see much oppression happening.
almost no one in China feels that their state is an oppressive force, they feel the opposite. The government has more than a 90% approval rating. The overwhelming majority of Chinese people view their society as legitimate and socialist. If you had any interest in democracy at all you'd respect this perspective instead of imposing your own
That's about the level of response I'd expect from a lib to inconvenient facts
Lol you think everyone who criticizes Capitalist governments like the US and China are liberals?
She's literally correct; studies from even anti-Chinese partisan sources can't help but find that satisfaction with the government is overwhelming. While you treat anti-imperialist movements like this sitting from your home in the imperial core, you're not a revolutionary or helping anybody build towards anything better, you're an active hindrance. Feel free to imbibe the actual opinions of people in China so you can understand the conditions there and not just your cracker conditioning. It's not perfect, but overthrow would be far; far worse.
(this is unrelated but I've only been going by she for a little while and it felt kinda nice to be called she like that, thank you.)
What? I stand with the Chinese people against their oppressors. Criticism of an oppressive State is not criticism of its victims.
Said the anglo, eagerly parroting his three-letter-agency masters with his hands on his pearls and a breathless huff to his diction. I have never seen such eager catamites for fuckin genociders in my life; is this what living in Weimar Germany was like?
It's because China needs help using Emacs. Lemmy needs to rebrand to a Vim learning resource.
some of the gymnastics in this thread are hilarious. critical support is a thing you can criticize china's various Ls while still supporting the chinese people.
Slight nitpick(a)
You wrote 西 (xī) which means west. You probably meant 习 (xí), referring to the president.
Also in "Without the Communist Party, There Would Be No New China" you wrote 金 (jīn) which means gold, when it should be 就.
HA thank you, I'm still learning to properly use my pinyin engine and identify correct characters
Can confirm, I just checked. When I first moved to China hexbear wasn't blocked but it is now. Lemmygrad is still unblocked though
Oh, and a fun fact - I know of a few porn sites that you can view in China without a VPN 😆
