• InternetLefty [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Mindfulness is not about purging your thoughts. It's about being mindful of all your perceptions, including your thoughts. I agree that there is nothing without ideology in this world but there's really no reason to disavow mindfulness in totality because it's used to dull the mental anguish of modern capitalism (although I agree that it can be used cynically to keep people from pursuing a change in the material conditions of their lives)

    • ElChango [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Oh I completely agree - that's the objective definition of the term. But that's not how it's being used in the recent trend. Like primrosepathspeedrun was saying, it's more about the aesthetics than anything

      • InternetLefty [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I think that it's being sold as a service and that explains the current modern fascination. I reject out of hand though the demonization of mental self awareness aka mindfulness. I think it's unproductive

    • primrosepathspeedrun [she/her,des/pair]
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      2 years ago

      in practice, every time someone recommends it to me it's about not thinking about big stuff, just thinking about and occupying the present moment-always ahistorically, and generally without ambitions for the future, just think about now, right this moment.

      • InternetLefty [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The two aren't mutually exclusive. You wouldn't let yourself have 5, 10 minutes in a day where you're not actively thinking about the class struggle? No one can doubt your revolutionary bona fides but it's important to be aware of the pattern if your thought and how it influences your emotion and behavior. Kudos to you if you've never had issues with anxiety/depression but as someone who suffers from/has suffered from both awareness of my patterns of thought has brought me a lot of peace. Mindfulness is a practical approach to mental self awareness, and it doesn't need to be more than that if that's not helpful for you.

        • primrosepathspeedrun [she/her,des/pair]
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          2 years ago

          looking away is not the solution. self awareness is fine? good and necessary, even? I find 'mindfulness' courses tend to discourage it.

          if you really struggle with introspection, do some drugs.

          • InternetLefty [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Allowing yourself time to "look away" from your idealized perception of the world to better understand it's material basis in your own being is really constructive. You could even call it a practice of self-criticism. I understand the hesitancy to participate in commodified mindfulness services, etc, but I don't think we should be rejecting it out of hand

            • primrosepathspeedrun [she/her,des/pair]
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              2 years ago

              none of what you're describing has been involved any time a doctor or therapist has suggested 'mindfulness' to me. this is literally the first im seeing anywhere where the these concepts are associated with 'mindfulness'.

              • InternetLefty [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                I see cognitive behavioral therapy as being a process that includes the self awareness part of mindfulness at least. The acceptance part of mindfulness, accepting your unpleasant thoughts without judgement, could be viewed as looking past your justifiable concerns surrounding the negative aspects of your experience as a working person, but I prefer to see it as disarming your thoughts rather than disregarding them. Nothing about mindfulness based therapy suggests we should change our values, rather that we should not torture ourselves with obsessive and negative thinking.

                I do think that mindfulness can be cynically "hocked" to working people to get them to ignore the inequities of capitalist society, but it can't actually get you to believe that you're not experiencing them. I also believe that mindfulness has a place in a post revolutionary society.

              • PasswordRememberer [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                silence, fed. brand new account account posting about violence and inviting people into off-site chats.

                lol as if labor law is real. burn down a family dollar near you!

                https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2675199

                honestly this is the reason i am now okay with political violence. why I just cannot give a shit about random lib lives anymore.

                https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2674754

                so does anyone have an not-super-tracked resources on 3d printing guns?

                https://hexbear.net/post/211276/comment/2675528

                so i guess im in favor of burning down tim hortons now.

                https://hexbear.net/post/211293/comment/2675400

                gotta kill all the racists if you want your reconstruction to have sticking power.

                https://hexbear.net/post/211219/comment/2674682

                does this have groups/private threads, or are we going to matrix or signal or something?

                https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2675473

                Death to America