This is not sorted except in that I put similar content next to each other. It's descriptively rated rather than numerically rated. The only numerical rating I'll give is to 3Blue1Brown, who is not a breadtuber, but still gets a perfect pi out of pi for his insightful math content.
Lindsay Ellis - She's good. I think her analysis is a little more shallow than it used to be. That's understandable given how many things she's doing at once now, but it's still a decline. She's still good.
Kyle Kallgren - Pretentious as all hell, but like in a good way. Is antifa, likes shakespeare. Underrated.
Shaun - I don't like how the patreon model seems to reward longer and longer blobs of content. Shaun's content has survived this trend better than a lot of the others, where a two hour Shaun vid is almost as good as four half hour ones back to back would be. Still wish he'd cut it down.
Three Arrows - Great. Like Shaun but with some restraint and tighter scripts. Talks about right wing ideas and why they're wrong. I do not care that one time somebody told you the third arrow represents anti-communism.
Innuendo Studios - Excellent. Has a great understanding of alt right bullshit.
Contrapoints - I take a long time to get around to her videos at this point. It was cool when she was adding drama to spice up her show about talking about things, but now it's mostly spice and very little analysis.
Philosophy Tube - Like Contrapoints, I think his material has become too focused on the theatrical to actually get anywhere. There still tends to be some insight in there.
Thought Slime - Hit and miss. He does good analysis of anarchist topics sometimes. Other times he's up his own ass with youtube drama or whatever.
HBomberguy - He's very good sometimes, but like Shaun I think he suffers from how the patreon model seems to reward longer and longer content. His longer videos aren't much deeper than his shorter ones, and they're very long. He tends to make very long videos about things I just don't care about, and if I wanted that I'd watch...
Jenny Nicholson - The absolute best at being entertaining while spending an hour talking about something you do not care about. Not really breadtube but she's friends with half these people.
The Killian Experience - If HBomb's video game stuff counts then I feel like this guy should too. He's very funny.
Donoteat01 - Excellent, but never updates. The Well There's Your Problem podcast is great though, cohost Alice adds a lot.
Mexie - Is good, but I don't really enjoy her content. I think that's on me and you should give her a try though.
Beau of the fifth column - Is excellent, but very firmly targeted at someone who isn't me. Likely to be one of my go-to deradicalizing content creators now though.
Some More News - Also good but not quite for me. Better version of Jon Oliver's show. Great thing to point libs at.
Good idea to use Beau as a deradicalizing source. I was sad that Natalie took down her old videos because I could usually get someone to take the 15 minutes to start the process. Now her videos are relatively inaccessible both in tone and length, and it's much harder to persuade someone who doesn't eagerly want to learn more to actually watch them, though the content is different too, so they'd do less for de-radicalization as well.
Beau keeps super short, to the point, and has something for everything. I also think the tone and format are going to be more approachable for chuds who need reeducating, so it fills the hole quite nicely.
Why do you think the patreon model encourages longer form content?
My understanding is that this trend is due to a change in the youtube recommendation algorithm that minmaxes for watch time.
Patreon on the other hand is either billed monthly or per video and as such if anything would favor shorter form videos released more frequently to maintain patron interest.
I don't really know the mechanics of it. The timing seems to be more in line with patreon becoming the dominant form of finance for youtube creators, rather than the algorithm change that focuses on long content (which was quite a while ago).
The algorithm also rewards steady uploads, which isn't what's happening at all. There are also several creators that have completely given up on youtube monetization because of DMCA hell.
If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess that it mostly affects creators who actually want to publish longer videos with more time to research. Patreon is giving them the means to actually do this (good), but the subscribers need to feel like they're getting their money's worth if a video gets delayed for multiple months, which discourages editing it down to a shorter run length, because video length is far more visible than research quality.
I believe the timing has a shared root cause. Old youtube creator documents recommended regular uploads and this was the norm. A few years ago there were considerable drops in online advertising rates which caused youtube to make dramatic changes in it's algorithm and also lead creators to seek alternative forms of income.
This is not sorted except in that I put similar content next to each other. It's descriptively rated rather than numerically rated. The only numerical rating I'll give is to 3Blue1Brown, who is not a breadtuber, but still gets a perfect pi out of pi for his insightful math content.
Lindsay Ellis - She's good. I think her analysis is a little more shallow than it used to be. That's understandable given how many things she's doing at once now, but it's still a decline. She's still good.
Kyle Kallgren - Pretentious as all hell, but like in a good way. Is antifa, likes shakespeare. Underrated.
Shaun - I don't like how the patreon model seems to reward longer and longer blobs of content. Shaun's content has survived this trend better than a lot of the others, where a two hour Shaun vid is almost as good as four half hour ones back to back would be. Still wish he'd cut it down.
Three Arrows - Great. Like Shaun but with some restraint and tighter scripts. Talks about right wing ideas and why they're wrong. I do not care that one time somebody told you the third arrow represents anti-communism.
Innuendo Studios - Excellent. Has a great understanding of alt right bullshit.
Contrapoints - I take a long time to get around to her videos at this point. It was cool when she was adding drama to spice up her show about talking about things, but now it's mostly spice and very little analysis.
Philosophy Tube - Like Contrapoints, I think his material has become too focused on the theatrical to actually get anywhere. There still tends to be some insight in there.
Thought Slime - Hit and miss. He does good analysis of anarchist topics sometimes. Other times he's up his own ass with youtube drama or whatever.
HBomberguy - He's very good sometimes, but like Shaun I think he suffers from how the patreon model seems to reward longer and longer content. His longer videos aren't much deeper than his shorter ones, and they're very long. He tends to make very long videos about things I just don't care about, and if I wanted that I'd watch...
Jenny Nicholson - The absolute best at being entertaining while spending an hour talking about something you do not care about. Not really breadtube but she's friends with half these people.
The Killian Experience - If HBomb's video game stuff counts then I feel like this guy should too. He's very funny.
Donoteat01 - Excellent, but never updates. The Well There's Your Problem podcast is great though, cohost Alice adds a lot.
Mexie - Is good, but I don't really enjoy her content. I think that's on me and you should give her a try though.
Beau of the fifth column - Is excellent, but very firmly targeted at someone who isn't me. Likely to be one of my go-to deradicalizing content creators now though.
Some More News - Also good but not quite for me. Better version of Jon Oliver's show. Great thing to point libs at.
if Killian Experience counts as a breadtuber; then Internet Comment Etiquette is an excellent breadtuber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjOlKxOTXyE
Good idea to use Beau as a deradicalizing source. I was sad that Natalie took down her old videos because I could usually get someone to take the 15 minutes to start the process. Now her videos are relatively inaccessible both in tone and length, and it's much harder to persuade someone who doesn't eagerly want to learn more to actually watch them, though the content is different too, so they'd do less for de-radicalization as well.
Beau keeps super short, to the point, and has something for everything. I also think the tone and format are going to be more approachable for chuds who need reeducating, so it fills the hole quite nicely.
It'd be nice if she remade them in her current form.
Why do you think the patreon model encourages longer form content?
My understanding is that this trend is due to a change in the youtube recommendation algorithm that minmaxes for watch time.
Patreon on the other hand is either billed monthly or per video and as such if anything would favor shorter form videos released more frequently to maintain patron interest.
I don't really know the mechanics of it. The timing seems to be more in line with patreon becoming the dominant form of finance for youtube creators, rather than the algorithm change that focuses on long content (which was quite a while ago).
The algorithm also rewards steady uploads, which isn't what's happening at all. There are also several creators that have completely given up on youtube monetization because of DMCA hell.
If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess that it mostly affects creators who actually want to publish longer videos with more time to research. Patreon is giving them the means to actually do this (good), but the subscribers need to feel like they're getting their money's worth if a video gets delayed for multiple months, which discourages editing it down to a shorter run length, because video length is far more visible than research quality.
I believe the timing has a shared root cause. Old youtube creator documents recommended regular uploads and this was the norm. A few years ago there were considerable drops in online advertising rates which caused youtube to make dramatic changes in it's algorithm and also lead creators to seek alternative forms of income.