my suspicion of PRC's head of propaganda department are old farts who are clueless and stuck in the past are confirmed more and more each day. To publish this weak shit after weeks of threats is embarrassing lol
My read is more that there’s something wrong with the coordination between their policy department and their propaganda department.
The policy stuff so far has been very steady and consistent — it was clearly premeditated as a series of measures focused exclusively on Taiwan: its exports (its huge trade surplus with mainland), its specific industries, its agriculture, plus that military exercise that’s basically a beefed-up tit-for-tat repetition of what they did back in 1996 in protest of Newt Scamander’s (sic) visit. there’s clearly a playbook and a standard operating procedure.
But then, if you look at what their propaganda people have been saying, including both official channels like the MFA and the presses and the unofficial ones such as the former editor in chief of Global Times, everything is focused on Pelosi. Intercepting her plane. HER visit. HER mistake. Etc. very much eclipsing the Taiwan gov’s role in this (even though, admittedly, they are just dogs having no say on what their master wants). My suspicion is almost the opposite of yours: I almost feel that their propaganda people are TOO ONLINE. They kinda got submerged in the instant karma/gratification cycle where everything thinks the whole W or L hinges on whether Icecreamfridge’s plane can land or something. And with that they lost the chance to set their own tone & pace (this is about countering Taiwan etc., downplaying punishing Icecreamfridge herself etc). And my suspicion of their being too online also has to do with simply how immensely popular the Chinese MFA and Youth League’s online presences are among the youth
I don't think this guy gets marching orders from the CPC. He's just a die-hard nationalist. I think Chinese media is actually less closely regulated than American media. Show me a MSM article in US media that debunks state department Uyghur genocide claims. It doesn't exist despite the claim having zero/extremely flimsy evidence.
even though, admittedly, they are just dogs having no say on what their master wants
Ehhh... not really. Do you remember the whole Tedros and WHO thing? The current DPP admin tries to find ways to get Taiwan "officially recognized".
I don’t think this guy gets marching orders from the CPC.
I would assume he’s somehow authorized by someone to speak certain things, but yeah he kind of wrecked the whole thing in a way
Re: Uyghur genocide, I think there was a point by point debunk article on global times back in 2020. But yeah Chinese media can be WILD when it comes to stuff that isn’t screened
Re: DPP, yeah, they can do all kinds of cringe shenanigans (#milkteaalliance #taiwancanhelp) but I highly doubt the DPP could say no to any Yank politician, esp when Icecreamfridge was screaming at them demanding a visit.
I highly doubt the DPP could say no to any Yank politician, esp when Icecreamfridge was screaming at them demanding a visit.
Not that many countries can say no. Venezuela, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Belarus. I think that's it. The US told Europe to suffer over Ukraine and they followed orders. Taiwan is stuck between China and the US. China can't be allied with simply because they keep saying they are going to invade Taiwan so it leaves the US as the only choice.
He’s the tucker Carlson of China. Lol, many Mainlanders ridicules him for having fantasy prediction like shooting Pelosi plane down. But from the cpc themselves, not much, but with the military exercise, it will certainly change the status quo though.
Re: Uyghur genocide, I think there was a point by point debunk article on global times back in 2020. But yeah Chinese media can be WILD when it comes to stuff that isn’t screened
I'm saying from American media. Even including "leftist" ones.
They're not used to dealing with modern internet situations where statements take on a life of their own. A large military exercise is certainly within the scope of "a military response" but the fact that they didn't plan for people interpreting that statement as "we will shoot that ghoul's plane down" is telling.
Even the initial statement they released had some shonky translating of Xi's statement which makes me feel like they didn't run it by a natively bilingual person first.
A fed would support the kmt in its goal to rule over all of China. I'm an actual taiwanese american that has been living in Taiwan for the past 10+ years
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Xi Jinping turning up a big dial labeled "Sanctions against Taiwan" and looking back at his WeChat feed for approval.
my suspicion of PRC's head of propaganda department are old farts who are clueless and stuck in the past are confirmed more and more each day. To publish this weak shit after weeks of threats is embarrassing lol
My read is more that there’s something wrong with the coordination between their policy department and their propaganda department.
The policy stuff so far has been very steady and consistent — it was clearly premeditated as a series of measures focused exclusively on Taiwan: its exports (its huge trade surplus with mainland), its specific industries, its agriculture, plus that military exercise that’s basically a beefed-up tit-for-tat repetition of what they did back in 1996 in protest of Newt Scamander’s (sic) visit. there’s clearly a playbook and a standard operating procedure.
But then, if you look at what their propaganda people have been saying, including both official channels like the MFA and the presses and the unofficial ones such as the former editor in chief of Global Times, everything is focused on Pelosi. Intercepting her plane. HER visit. HER mistake. Etc. very much eclipsing the Taiwan gov’s role in this (even though, admittedly, they are just dogs having no say on what their master wants). My suspicion is almost the opposite of yours: I almost feel that their propaganda people are TOO ONLINE. They kinda got submerged in the instant karma/gratification cycle where everything thinks the whole W or L hinges on whether Icecreamfridge’s plane can land or something. And with that they lost the chance to set their own tone & pace (this is about countering Taiwan etc., downplaying punishing Icecreamfridge herself etc). And my suspicion of their being too online also has to do with simply how immensely popular the Chinese MFA and Youth League’s online presences are among the youth
I don't think this guy gets marching orders from the CPC. He's just a die-hard nationalist. I think Chinese media is actually less closely regulated than American media. Show me a MSM article in US media that debunks state department Uyghur genocide claims. It doesn't exist despite the claim having zero/extremely flimsy evidence.
Ehhh... not really. Do you remember the whole Tedros and WHO thing? The current DPP admin tries to find ways to get Taiwan "officially recognized".
I would assume he’s somehow authorized by someone to speak certain things, but yeah he kind of wrecked the whole thing in a way
Re: Uyghur genocide, I think there was a point by point debunk article on global times back in 2020. But yeah Chinese media can be WILD when it comes to stuff that isn’t screened
Re: DPP, yeah, they can do all kinds of cringe shenanigans (#milkteaalliance #taiwancanhelp) but I highly doubt the DPP could say no to any Yank politician, esp when Icecreamfridge was screaming at them demanding a visit.
Milk Tea is a CIA op.
Not that many countries can say no. Venezuela, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Belarus. I think that's it. The US told Europe to suffer over Ukraine and they followed orders. Taiwan is stuck between China and the US. China can't be allied with simply because they keep saying they are going to invade Taiwan so it leaves the US as the only choice.
He’s the tucker Carlson of China. Lol, many Mainlanders ridicules him for having fantasy prediction like shooting Pelosi plane down. But from the cpc themselves, not much, but with the military exercise, it will certainly change the status quo though.
I'm saying from American media. Even including "leftist" ones.
They're not used to dealing with modern internet situations where statements take on a life of their own. A large military exercise is certainly within the scope of "a military response" but the fact that they didn't plan for people interpreting that statement as "we will shoot that ghoul's plane down" is telling.
Even the initial statement they released had some shonky translating of Xi's statement which makes me feel like they didn't run it by a natively bilingual person first.
Taiwan and China are actually very close trading partners
It's almost like they are the same country
they aren't. the cpc has basically nothing to do with Taiwan except trash leftover from their war took over the island.
:fedposting:
A fed would support the kmt in its goal to rule over all of China. I'm an actual taiwanese american that has been living in Taiwan for the past 10+ years
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lol