• plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Additionally, the day before the Chinese authorities banned (“paused”) imports from more than a hundred food manufacturers in Taiwan — most of them are literally TREATS, like snacks and chips and things. The industry group representing these manufacturers don’t sound very optimistic about where their goods can go instead

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Very shrewd targeting by China. Many Taiwanese snack manufacturers make snacks that are popular to Chinese (inc those in Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, etc) tastes but aren't particularly paletable to other markets.

      It would be relatively simple for Taiwan to find other buyers for its laptops and machine tools. Salted duck egg flavored biscuits? Not so much.

        • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I MISS MY DUCK TONGUES.

          But it probably shows how much easier it would be to market Taiwan’s snack stuffs to mainland China than to elsewhere, with an undeniably shared/intermingled language, culture etc.

      • Quimby [any, any]
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        2 years ago

        Speak for yourself. If I could get salted duck egg flavored biscuits here for a reasonable price, I would.

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Well I hope for the sake of Taiwanese food business that you are a market of a billion plus people.

    • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      Don't worry Taiwan I'm sure middle America would love your spicy shrimp flavored rice crackers and caramelized fish things.

      (I do like that stuff I'm sure you all know I'm being sarcastic)

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Xi Jinping turning up a big dial labeled "Sanctions against Taiwan" and looking back at his WeChat feed for approval.

      • CommCat [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        my suspicion of PRC's head of propaganda department are old farts who are clueless and stuck in the past are confirmed more and more each day. To publish this weak shit after weeks of threats is embarrassing lol

        • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          My read is more that there’s something wrong with the coordination between their policy department and their propaganda department.

          The policy stuff so far has been very steady and consistent — it was clearly premeditated as a series of measures focused exclusively on Taiwan: its exports (its huge trade surplus with mainland), its specific industries, its agriculture, plus that military exercise that’s basically a beefed-up tit-for-tat repetition of what they did back in 1996 in protest of Newt Scamander’s (sic) visit. there’s clearly a playbook and a standard operating procedure.

          But then, if you look at what their propaganda people have been saying, including both official channels like the MFA and the presses and the unofficial ones such as the former editor in chief of Global Times, everything is focused on Pelosi. Intercepting her plane. HER visit. HER mistake. Etc. very much eclipsing the Taiwan gov’s role in this (even though, admittedly, they are just dogs having no say on what their master wants). My suspicion is almost the opposite of yours: I almost feel that their propaganda people are TOO ONLINE. They kinda got submerged in the instant karma/gratification cycle where everything thinks the whole W or L hinges on whether Icecreamfridge’s plane can land or something. And with that they lost the chance to set their own tone & pace (this is about countering Taiwan etc., downplaying punishing Icecreamfridge herself etc). And my suspicion of their being too online also has to do with simply how immensely popular the Chinese MFA and Youth League’s online presences are among the youth

          • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            former editor in chief of Global Times

            I don't think this guy gets marching orders from the CPC. He's just a die-hard nationalist. I think Chinese media is actually less closely regulated than American media. Show me a MSM article in US media that debunks state department Uyghur genocide claims. It doesn't exist despite the claim having zero/extremely flimsy evidence.

            even though, admittedly, they are just dogs having no say on what their master wants

            Ehhh... not really. Do you remember the whole Tedros and WHO thing? The current DPP admin tries to find ways to get Taiwan "officially recognized".

            • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              I don’t think this guy gets marching orders from the CPC.

              I would assume he’s somehow authorized by someone to speak certain things, but yeah he kind of wrecked the whole thing in a way

              Re: Uyghur genocide, I think there was a point by point debunk article on global times back in 2020. But yeah Chinese media can be WILD when it comes to stuff that isn’t screened

              Re: DPP, yeah, they can do all kinds of cringe shenanigans (#milkteaalliance #taiwancanhelp) but I highly doubt the DPP could say no to any Yank politician, esp when Icecreamfridge was screaming at them demanding a visit.

              • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                He’s the tucker Carlson of China. Lol, many Mainlanders ridicules him for having fantasy prediction like shooting Pelosi plane down. But from the cpc themselves, not much, but with the military exercise, it will certainly change the status quo though.

              • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                Milk Tea is a CIA op.

                I highly doubt the DPP could say no to any Yank politician, esp when Icecreamfridge was screaming at them demanding a visit.

                Not that many countries can say no. Venezuela, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Belarus. I think that's it. The US told Europe to suffer over Ukraine and they followed orders. Taiwan is stuck between China and the US. China can't be allied with simply because they keep saying they are going to invade Taiwan so it leaves the US as the only choice.

              • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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                Re: Uyghur genocide, I think there was a point by point debunk article on global times back in 2020. But yeah Chinese media can be WILD when it comes to stuff that isn’t screened

                I'm saying from American media. Even including "leftist" ones.

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          They're not used to dealing with modern internet situations where statements take on a life of their own. A large military exercise is certainly within the scope of "a military response" but the fact that they didn't plan for people interpreting that statement as "we will shoot that ghoul's plane down" is telling.

          Even the initial statement they released had some shonky translating of Xi's statement which makes me feel like they didn't run it by a natively bilingual person first.

  • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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    2 years ago

    China also banned the export of high-quality sand to Taiwan, which will have a serious effect on their chip industry. That feels like the bigger thing.

      • YEP [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It will still effect profits things like this always do

  • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    lol
    when china banned chinese tourists from visiting taiwan (tour groups? not sure), quality of life in tourist areas improved A LOT

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I live in an American tourist town and if Florida and New York banned tourists from coming here, we'd be full socialist in weeks

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    18 days ago

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    • emizeko [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      this is imports, presumably the target is the bourgeoisie that control these sectors of Taiwan's industry