pffft talking to strangers i dont already know. but luckily i dont have to deal with too much. My conservative catholic family kinda had to deal with it now that a cousin is a trans man and they know to stfu when it comes to talking to me.
Conservative / libertarianism in general tends to pride itself on being anti authority and anti-establishment “Drain the swamp” even when they control society.
that's been a point i've been making to people lately. Almost nobody is truly anti-authoritarian. Most of us want society a certain way and obtaining that is going to require "authoritarianism."
Most of us want society a certain way and obtaining that is going to require “authoritarianism.”
Gonna show my lib side here - am I mistaken, or is this kind of the entire thesis of Engels' "On Authority?" I've skimmed it, but havent actually read it.
That's right. Engels wrote it as a response to other socialists' criticism of Marxism as authoritarian and his main point is basically that you can't aim to reorganize human society without a way to force change on everyone whether they want it or not.
More generally than that, he was arguing that the necessity of authority doesn't come from any set of ideals but from material conditions. "The hours of the working day are fixed by the authority of the steam engine" and whatnot.
pffft talking to strangers i dont already know. but luckily i dont have to deal with too much. My conservative catholic family kinda had to deal with it now that a cousin is a trans man and they know to stfu when it comes to talking to me.
that's been a point i've been making to people lately. Almost nobody is truly anti-authoritarian. Most of us want society a certain way and obtaining that is going to require "authoritarianism."
Gonna show my lib side here - am I mistaken, or is this kind of the entire thesis of Engels' "On Authority?" I've skimmed it, but havent actually read it.
Yes I know its 4 pages I will read it today.
That's right. Engels wrote it as a response to other socialists' criticism of Marxism as authoritarian and his main point is basically that you can't aim to reorganize human society without a way to force change on everyone whether they want it or not.
More generally than that, he was arguing that the necessity of authority doesn't come from any set of ideals but from material conditions. "The hours of the working day are fixed by the authority of the steam engine" and whatnot.
Ty comrade!
Yeah, this is basically the thesis of "On Authority"
Ty comrade!
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