it's because they haven't read it

:matt-jokerfied:

no seriously, on the recent chapo episode with brace they went on this 10 minute rant about the book and then every admitted they had never read it

good stuff

  • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    In the end, they are podcasters and not revolutionaries or organizers. Saying that, Brace put his life on the line for a global south liberationary cause (Rojava) with socialistic tendencies so hopefully he's allowed a pass on this one, maybe he didn't read Sakai but he was also willing to die - and not in just a "cool" or "honorable" way by getting shot but also dehydration or cholera.

    So, I guess anyone who disagrees with Sakai or refuses to read it can ship out to a socialist international legion next time lol.

    • The_Dawn [fae/faer, des/pair]
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      2 years ago

      I'm so down for this as a program, read Settlers or fight in a liberatory struggle in the global south lol

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      In the end, they are podcasters and not revolutionaries or organizers

      They seem like organizers to me. If nothing else, they're broadcasting information to a large audience - a role which is necessary and useful to any mass organization.

      If the Chapos fundraise - like Felix did to raise money for Palestinians a year or so back - they raise money. If they host events, lots of people show up. If they put out a call to action, people act.

      That's organizing, baby!

      So, I guess anyone who disagrees with Sakai or refuses to read it can ship out to a socialist international legion next time lol.

      Doing the Progressive Stack, but with Challenge Coins.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          Oh yeah. He did that Craft Beer unionizing thing, didn't he?

          Underappreciated piece of Brace Lore.

          • OgdenTO [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            According to him he was lightly involved but mostly it was other people doing to unionization work.

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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              2 years ago

              When he's not in character, Brace tends to be very modest. But I'm sure he pulled his weight in any effort.

    • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I didn’t realize being a US imperialist proxy and looting oil from Syrians was a “global south liberationary [not a word] cause”

      Hint: if you are allied with the US you are wrong, with the singular exception of WW2

      • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Once you compare the Kurd territory with the oil fields, things get a lot more interesting

        http://www.energy-cg.com/MiddleEast/Syria/Syria%20Oil%20and%20Gas%20Overview.html

        http://www.energy-cg.com/MiddleEast/Syria/Syria_Turkey_Kurds_USBasesLocationsReportedKurdArea_Image1x1_Oct19_EnergyConsutlingGroup_web.png

        http://www.energy-cg.com/MiddleEast/Syria/Syria_Turkey_Kurds_ProposedSafeZone_Image1x1_Oct19_EnergyConsutlingGroup_web.png

      • Kaputnik [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        There's been a times the US has stumbled into being on the right side, like the Portuguese Colonial Wars, but yea 99% of the time the Evil Empire is evil

        • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          They didn’t do that in Syria, the civil war they started, with jihadists they trained. It was a purposeful imperialist action to split the nation along ethnic lines and promote different factions and bleed the country white

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Nah, the attack on Pearl Harbor was done 6 months after Operation Barbarossa started. The US did the absolute bare minimum and only did it at the last minute, so it's not the case of other countries being allied with the US but the US being allied with them.

        • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Well it’s also that one of the main causes for WW1 and WW2 was Germany wanting to have what Britain had. I don’t mean the islands of the UK, I mean their globespanning empire of colonial domination. So necessarily, both world wars would orbit around the conflict of UK vs. Germany. Interimperialist fighting in both cases.

          What was unique about WW2 was that there was a new wildcard, the USSR. The first proletarian non-imperialist superpower that created such fear and reaction in the bourgeois imperialists of Germany, UK and USA that the whole war went differently. Germany was allowed to metastasize by the other European powers in a hope it would collide with the USSR. Germany was overtaken by the blackest reaction and took on an anti-communist genocidal crusade, funded and backed by capitalists around the world to go Eastward.

          The USA was dragged into WW2 on the side of the UK because of heavily shared capital interests between the two anglo nations. The USSR did whatever it needed to protect itself, stalling for as long as possible with ceasefires and then allying with whoever to repel the genocidal German invaders.

          • D3FNC [any]
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            2 years ago

            Fucking hell I really do need to read this theory shit everyone's always joking about