It really doesnt, at most it describes a lot of aspects and ereas of life of modern dengist driven China and Vietnam ,both of which dont claim or pretend to be even a tenth of the way towards achieving actual wholescale socialism and openly lay out "this is why and how we are here and what it means" . And that in the very important context of the historical and geopolitical development of those countries , the fall of the communist bloc and what their current situation represents and achieves in the basis of their imperialized and colonial past.
The context for the meme in the pic isnt that under no concievable conditions and level of development of any project can a situation like this be "part of socialist construction". Its that even in the most developed and rich imperial nations of the world the best society socdems and radlibs can think of (or at least the end result of their politics ) is this. Vaushites have in America insane amounts of wealth to redistribute and no one from outside to imperialise or prevent them from building socialism and this is the society they would create
Yeah, I'm occasionally amazed at seeing Leftcoms and Dengists have it out online and once you strip away the jargon they're in complete agreement about what China is, it's just one thinks "and that's bad, please push Communism button now" and the other thinks "that's good, 200 years to Socialism!" (I'm on the "I hope it works out for them, can't we all be friends?" side)
Yeah Social democracy in the form and content it had in the late 19th/early20tg century has been long dead and buried and today's parties and politicians that carry their name are further away from it than the most radical bolshavik and maoist is. By orders of magnitude even.
Social services were expansive, rent was 5-11% of income (maintenance level) if you paid rent at all, and homelessness was virtually eliminated in the USSR except in the most extreme cases
I say the states you're describing wouldn't have had the industrial capacity or infrastructure to solve these problems regardless of government ideology
…tbf most of this can also describe various socialist states in the 20th century.
It really doesnt, at most it describes a lot of aspects and ereas of life of modern dengist driven China and Vietnam ,both of which dont claim or pretend to be even a tenth of the way towards achieving actual wholescale socialism and openly lay out "this is why and how we are here and what it means" . And that in the very important context of the historical and geopolitical development of those countries , the fall of the communist bloc and what their current situation represents and achieves in the basis of their imperialized and colonial past.
The context for the meme in the pic isnt that under no concievable conditions and level of development of any project can a situation like this be "part of socialist construction". Its that even in the most developed and rich imperial nations of the world the best society socdems and radlibs can think of (or at least the end result of their politics ) is this. Vaushites have in America insane amounts of wealth to redistribute and no one from outside to imperialise or prevent them from building socialism and this is the society they would create
Yeah, I'm occasionally amazed at seeing Leftcoms and Dengists have it out online and once you strip away the jargon they're in complete agreement about what China is, it's just one thinks "and that's bad, please push Communism button now" and the other thinks "that's good, 200 years to Socialism!" (I'm on the "I hope it works out for them, can't we all be friends?" side)
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Yeah Social democracy in the form and content it had in the late 19th/early20tg century has been long dead and buried and today's parties and politicians that carry their name are further away from it than the most radical bolshavik and maoist is. By orders of magnitude even.
Social services were expansive, rent was 5-11% of income (maintenance level) if you paid rent at all, and homelessness was virtually eliminated in the USSR except in the most extreme cases
I say the states you're describing wouldn't have had the industrial capacity or infrastructure to solve these problems regardless of government ideology
Thats why some people find the term "AES" offending.
Actually Existing Transitional Dictatorship of the Proletariat is a bit hard to say in the tweet limit though.
Honestly if I had social services guaranteed such as healthcare and public transportation I'd still be fine doing 8 hrs shifts