Inasmuch as I disagree with XR, I disagree with this meme more.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Farmers are basically at war with nature as a profession. Some of the worst environmental things I have seen or heard of were on farms.

    Like a dude I knew managed to crush an old car battery with a tractor and basically shrugged it off. "Welp it's in the ground now."

    Some nugget headed dude I lived near had a retaining pond that he never lined and it would just catastrophically burst and flood every single year. Just the dumbest shit.

    This stuff actually personally bothers me because it's got like a parallel of all the shitty trad people that think farming is easy baked into it. You know what happened to the little house on the Prarie? It got blown away in the dustbowl. So go have fun with your 40 acres and your mule until you turn the topsoil to shit by monocropping the land to death.

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
      hexagon
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      8 months ago

      Some nugget headed dude I lived near had a retaining pond that he never lined and it would just catastrophically burst and flood every single year. Just the dumbest shit.

      Surely after the first couple of times... idk

      I wonder what the culture is like in less industrialised countries. Still want to visit Cuba

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        He had water rights so he could just be indifferent to thousands of gallons running down the hill. It also was frustrating because besides the wasted water there were frogs and birds and bugs that lived in that pond and the idea of their whole life being ruined because dingus didn't want to buy some plastic bummed me out. Frogs are cool. I dealt with mosquitoes from that pond. Maybe try to keep our amphibian friends around so they can deal with the mosquitoes instead? Like I said, some dudes are just "at war with nature." Being more responsible would save money and resources but some of these farmers are just locked in their wasteful ways.

        • keepcarrot [she/her]
          hexagon
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          8 months ago

          At some point or another if we want to have our current industrialised urbanised societies, food does have to be grown, but holy shit are farmers a reactionary block. Also, even if we do a soviet thing again, I would be against centralising farming to a huge extent because it introduces a bunch of vulnerabilities to food sovreignty (also, some projects would be rolled out very slowly, none of this replacing your entire agri-industry with a new thing that may or may not work). Unfortunately in WOrkers and Resources you don't really have any options for doing interesting agri-cycles.

          • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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            8 months ago

            I'm with you 100%. My experience says that we of course need farms but we shouldn't see farmers through rose tinted glasses.