Castile soap is an olive oil based hard soap made in a style similar to that originating in the Castile region of Spain. The origins of Castile soap go back to the Levant, where Aleppo soap-makers have made hard soaps based on olive and laurel oil for millennia. Early soap-makers in the Mediterranean area did not have easy access to laurel oil and therefore dropped it from their formulations, thereby creating an olive-oil soap now known as Castile soap.
In the 17th century, the soap caused controversy in England, since it supplanted the unnamed local soap after the Spanish Catholic manufacturers purchased the monopoly on the soap from the cash-strapped Carolinian government. Its ties to Catholicism caused a public-relations campaign to be established, featuring washerwomen showing how much more effective local soaps were than Castile soap. The sale of a monopoly in Protestant England to a Catholic company caused a great uproar, ending with the Castile soap company eventually being stripped of the monopoly.
Nabulsi soap is a type of castile soap produced only in Nablus in the West Bank, Palestine. Its chief ingredients are virgin olive oil (the main agricultural product of the region), water, and an alkaline sodium compound. The finished product is ivory-colored and has almost no scent. Traditionally made by women for household use, it had become a significant industry for Nablus by the 14th century. In 1907 the city's 30 Nabulsi soap factories were supplying half the soap in Palestine. Project Hope and other local non-governmental organizations market the soap in the West to raise funds for their other community projects.
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CW hostile, I'm sorry
You are hostile and sectarian
No I'm sick of bullshit pro-estalblishment geopolitical takes getting ANY traction on what passes for a sorry ass "left" in the west
Don't care if the dipshit labels himself an ml or an anarcho, he's still an optic obessed liberal cringing at someone who has actual pro-leftist nerve and gall
did you watch the video from start to finish yes or no ?
First five fuckin minutes the dumbass whines about Water callin Biden a war criminal over Ukraine, cause "he's only been president for a couple years, it's not Bidens fault Russia invaded Ukraine" as if Biden wasn't Obama's vice president during Euromaiden, as if Biden's bank account isn't neck deep in Ukrainian machine politics, as if Biden isn't one of, if not the most hawkish Democrats over Russia and damn near every other US foreign policy direction in the last thirty years...
But no, because Waters doesn't qualify his take thru inane twitch debate bro antics, he's somehow "just as stupid as the liberal he's talkin to"
Bro how are you a fan of this dipshit, just his overall presentation is obnoxious and vaush-like, fuckin post-hispter berniecrart Brooklyn street Nick Mullen wannabe ass motherfucker yuck
CW Hostile, I'm sorry
You miss the point completely, but it would be hard to pick up on nuance when you go into it pre titlted so that's understandable, at least you've actually watched some of it so you have a better idea of what you're mad at.
lmao
Nobody cares about nuance, it's a fuckin talk show interview, all that matters is a famous person called Biden a war criminal on live TV, that's all we need from Water's, no more no less, you want "nUNcE" go watch college lectures on youtube
Also I didn't "miss" any point, your twitch-addled Nick Mullen cosplayer clearly doesn't agree with the suggestion that Biden has done anything to warrant being called a war criminal over Ukraine, and I pointed out numerous reasons why that's bullshit, if the fucker wants to whine about "nucne" then he better get his Biden history straight before he talks shit
It's obviously based that he called Biden a war criminal, but I think the point was mostly that Waters got there pretty much exclusively through campism and that is not based, ask him if Putin is a war criminal and you'll probably get a no even though he every clearly is given the past year. just to a much lesser degree. Obviously the West is much worse and would be better defeated and weakened by a multi polar world, but when that's your politics is "critically supporting" capitalist states to take on other capitalist states your politics boils down to harm reduction first and maybe some marxism and socialism next, but probably just mostly just west bad. He also chooses Ukraine specifically bc of this, you wouldn't hear him talking about Biden enabling Israel to genocide Palestinians as a reason he's a war criminal, bc Putin is highly complicit in that as well and both governments have cordial relations with Israel. The same with Saudi Arabia bombing Yemen, something both states are complicit in supporting.
Good luck telling the Yemenis and the Palestinians that they'll be saved by a multi polar world when both poles are against their existence and contribute to their genocide. This is where the west bad analysis is shallow , and, leads to people just siding with one less shitty government instead of actually just using marxism / socialism / materialism to come to a conclusion, and, maybe sometimes not cheer leading one side over another when both do not represent any good or your values whatsoever. Waters analysis also stops at campism, he does not advocate for any kind of socialist project and is just some rich guy who prefers Russian hegemony or multi polarity vs the lib who is just some rich guy who supports US hegemony and unipolarity, it's not bad to like that people call out the US rightfully for being bad and the great satan of this world, but you can also expect more than just saying they're bad with the exact same depth the lib puts into saying they're good. And we're communists not multipolarityists the world becomes a better place with more socialist projects, not just different factions / pecking order of hegemonic states.
You can obviously disregard all of what I've said and say west bad is a sound philosophy if you believe China is a socialist state that will take the reigns of hegemon and usher the world into an era of world socialism, and the more the west is weak the more strong China is and the faster they'll press the socialism button or something like that, but, I personally would not place all my eggs in a non interventionist state that has been flip flopping from the socialist and capitalists roads all the time. That is basically the ML (aes) justification that some people have where anti americanism and critical support can just replace critical thinking, where any state is anti imperialist if it does something that's anti west even if it meets all of Lenin's and others definitions of imperialism as long as it reduces US unipolarity and all the other details are mostly irrelevant.
Ultimately I don't think you need to take a side in interimperialist wars, and, that it's pointless and even harmful to treat west vs Russia China bloc as a spectator sport, instead of just focusing on the working class of the world, the working class of both Russia and Ukraine being much better off without this war not to mention the 100,000s of dead both Russia and the West with Ukraine being complicit in starting / prolonging the war, and, it's good to denounce imperialism and atrocities and not just constantly engage in some harm reduction where you just get a free ticket into good/bad sides analysis vs actually evaluating individual events and using your theory and critical thinking to make up your mind about it yourself.
I don't fuckin care, all I need from him is more anti-nato, anti-US and anti-biden rhetoric, the western "left" is drowning in the opposite, so don't look a gift horse in the mouth and demand ideological consistency from a goddamn artist of all things, in kinda hilarious when it's the mls being less dogmatic than whatever ultra tendency you happen to be
This is so fuckin dumb, you do realize Yemenis and Palestinians are being genocided under the current uni-polar world, so positing some ahistorical hypothetical about future genocide is pretty disingenuous, yeah I'd like to see how Israel and Saudi Arabia fair without US arms, funding, intelligence and the dominance of the petrodollar, ask any Yemenis and Palestinian which world they would rather fight their struggle in.
Russia can invade Ukraine, but do you think it can pull off an Iraq War? A total sanction of Iran or Cuba? A Libya? A drone war in Pakistan? A shadow war in the Sahel? Hundreds of billions in arms and funds divvied out to 15 dictators year after year? All of that simultaneously?
See this right here is where the ultras utterly lose the plot, historically communist and socialist struggles have always advanced under the rubric of the multipolar world, the opposite is a uni-polar world which always implies a hegemonic superpower, which is NOT a communist goal, ideally, practically, or socially, we want multiple experiments out there, regional blocs breaking up the supply chains that feed global capital, the creation of independent networks able to advance the project thru understanding ** local conditions** not blindly following the lead of some western theorists halfway around the world
Ok well that leads all the way back to the original point, it's kinda hard to "FOCUS" on the "working class of the world" when we're dealing with the reality of US global hegemony every second of the day, US imperialism isn't some specter mls made up to distract them from the "The Great Socialist Revolution" it's a concrete global phenomenon that will fuck your shit up if not dealt with, there's no opt out option here
The US is the underwriter, the guarantor, the Sheriff and the mob boss of global capital, ultras constantly trip head first into idealism tryin to ignore this reality, as if this were 1929, and we're just dealin with a gaggle of decaying empires and then those darn new fangled Soviets who don't want to the push the communism button, those bloody revisionists....fuckin nonsense, live in the real world or don't
CW Hostile. I'm sorry
"I waste my time reading bad takes on reddit and twitter and I'm gonna base my ideology in opposition to them"
Imagine existing in this day and believing propaganda doesn't matter, the only thing Waters has going for him is he's famous, that's all I want or need from him
Also reddit/twitter is a better place to get takes then Twitch, just sayin
CW Hostile. I'm sorry
the "tankie" proletariet is for sure mostly on twitter and reddit lol
Marxism-Leninism is the dominant political and social movement everywhere in the globe not dominated by parasitic imperialists.
CW Hostile. I'm sorry, Also this was not a good faith comment iirc
It is the default ideology and I am right bc I am the default, you simply don't understand
Your assertion is stupid bullshit from a Westoid.
do you currently live in the west ?
Yeah it's how I recognize bugs like you
CW Hostile, but not sorry, that was rude
oh boy keep on going, bugs seems a little tame
CW hostile. I'm sorry
I'm gonna do this once to see how it feels, bc the arguments here are so fn bad / bad faith , .... tankie
CW hostile, I'm sorry
and it's back to sectarianism :rosa-salute: you will receive your social credit score and Xi bucks in the mail shortly
Strawmanning other tendencies with ridiculous caricatures is sectarian, I never hit first, but push me I'll push back :shrug-outta-hecks:
CW Hostile. I'm sorry
When you say Russia invading a country is somehow antiimperialist that is is the face of the most popular and regarded definitions of imperialism, and, that is a common take, I don't think that would be disputed. A better word for it would be anti west, but anti imperialism makes you sound smarter and less campist
Where are the people on Hexbear who say that Russia invading Ukraine is anti-Imperialist?
https://hexbear.net/post/214620/comment/2727601
just type russia imperialist in the search box, although prior months are disabled
They said that Russia is part of the anti-imperialist bloc, not that Russia invading Ukraine is anti-imperialist.
if you are part of an "anti-imperialist bloc", an invasion you do is by that logic anti imperialist, you literally cannot perform imperialism if your state is inherently somehow anti imperialist in nature
You're working backwards from your belief that all the icky Marxist-Leninists are campists who believe that enemies of the US can do no wrong.
I don't think that at all, most are not like that and pleasant, mostly just the ones that rant about western chauvinist radlibs and ultras
Haven't come across a lot of MLs who don't hate all these people. Hard to understand why they wouldn't.
western chauvinist radlibs are all just word soup insults that don't mean anything other than you are mad
and ultras is literally the same insult as tankies but just for tankies lol
You've conceded that Americans would commit genocide for McDonalds, yet you don't think that there's chauvinism reflective of that among Americans who call themselves Leftists? Where have these people undergone re-education? How did they unlearn all the propaganda from the Fourth Reich in which they reside?
Not as much as people like to imply there is, maybe redditors and people on twitter, but the way it's used here is just to disagree, also 90% of the people who say it are from the west (specifically Ohio) and it's asinine to add that in as if having "the based views" makes you # not like the other westerners
it is almost just copied from content creators like bayarea and it sounds like a very epic own you can throw out to instantly just win arguments, you know people haven't read a lot of theory when they speak a sentence that's 90% buzzwords / word soup copied from the sidebar of the reddits
https://hexbear.net/post/211916/comment/2690139
another one
Ambiguous. Russia is objectively countering coups. If the later sentence is meant to imply that therefore the invasion is anti-imperialist, that's stupid.
that posters really likes the guy who just posted Z a lot, and wants him unbanned, so I don't think his analysis runs too deep
CW Hostile. I'm sorry
why does China trade with Israel and Saudi Arabia rn ? Why would that magically stop if they gained more hegemony ? sounds like you're the one being ahistorical
Chinese trade with Israel is microscopic and China engages in it because Israel is a major tech and pharma hub thru which American IP tech could be acquired semi-legally
China has a $24 billion trade deficit with Saudi Arabia out of a 16 trillion dollar economy, also it's a major energy nexus, you know energy, that thing you need for rapid industrialization
Either way your point is mute, those countries exist by the grace of the US, should China become a "hegemon" (which is not something China actually wants), the concept of Chinese trade with those countries is transformed overnight
google search
well that was a fucking lie
I'm only commenting cause I don't want others to be misled by you, you're a troll, and you revealed your colors in another thread
So I'll point out the obvious, 10 billion in trade is microscopic
CW Hostile.
lmao I'm a troll, :cursed: okok
CW Hostile. I'm sorry. Also you didn't help the situation by putting ultras into your response like 5 times.
You don't really care about this conversation other than justifying your own insecure and shallow beliefs, you wouldn't have turned to writing "ultras" like 5 times in your response
I literally answered in good faith but ok get butthurt because you don't anything about global macro-economics
Also stop obsessing over stupid internet posting labels, yes internet ultras are universally dumb and idealistic, your conception of "sectarianism" doesn't exist in the real world
CW Hostile. I'm sorry
lmao
@CyborgMarx Venusta is right that you care too much about shitty smoke-and-mirror lib politics.
@Venusta you're missing the point that, while global lib infighting isn't going to bring about revolutionary change, it does overall contribute to the decline of neoliberalism which you see as less important than it is. China is the new de facto largest trading partner for most countries and has founded international military orgs that Russia is a joint partner of. Plus we're starting to see neocolonies vote in socdems to their top govt positions, which shows that hegemonic power is weakening, albeit only slightly. This will be an important environmental condition for successful revolutions in the future.
Anyway you're both pretty and you both need to get this junk out of the mega.
I still think it's bad to fall into campist tendencies of good/bad side even if having more trade options and military alliance options give some countries some breathing room, I don't know if you can really say it contributes to a decline in neoliberalism other than not having to get loans from the IMF, from vibes without presenting any statistics / hard numbers, but we'll have to see if more countries turn socdem and stay that way for more than a few years. It's also very unclear whether in the coming years China / Brics will incorporate added conditions for the actors they are dealing with, the generosity could easily start to ebb if/when they are seen as equals / preferred over the west. Also Xi could die tomorrow and be replaced by an absolute ghoul in the party, and, the future is very uncertain and it's best to take it as it goes and not get too dogmatic and judge things on a case by case basic with something like more trading / military breathing room from the west good, but not everything about / done by not the west good and based bc of that.I'm not doing this here. Full stop.
No you're not lol. Full stop. I wasn't saying you were.