I'm trying to empathise with them... I get why people become radicals of other kinds... but saying no music, no sex, live by the book, behead those who disagree... what part of that makes people think "I want to get into this, this sounds fun"?
The Arab world has valid grievances, which motivated 9-11 for example, but there's more to it than that.
Why the fuck were there so many euro teens falling for fukcing ISIS groomers in the 2010's?
IDK if there's really a lot, but many "bad things" are possible now because the internet let's you search for free candy vans in your area or whatever type of predator you're looking for to twilight yourself with.
there were? If it was the US I'd say FBI entrapment but idk about EU
yeah I remember at least 5 different cases of Germany teens escaping their homes and ending up as ISIS fighters/wives
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/12/middleeast/german-isis-wife-grm-intl/index.html
I don't know if that's a lot; in a country of ~80 million you'll always have a handful of people doing the weirdest shit imaginable.
been a while since i read about those kids, but wasn't it a combination of the usual teenage angst, the extra ostracization of
being shit to muslim immigrants, and romanticizing of the most extra version of their religion?
It's still fucking stupid from a mile far
Like, if they were just doing terrorism in euro countries in payback for mega-terrorism and colonization, OK, kinda understandable. But further destabilizing under-western-attack countries while doing civilian massacres, where the fuck do you square the liberation there? Or destroying/looting cool archaelogical shit from pre-Islam millenias?
You know how western teenagers have obscure esoteric fascist ideologies that was invented by some guy in the 1950s or a blogger in 2008? Islamic terrorism is basically that put into practice. Some of the sects deviate so far that they become “enlightened” and think everyone must die for a better world. Pol Pot but in a desert
yeah idk. there are women into that tradwife shit too and those reactionary christians are only separated from terrorism or destroying "pagan" artifacts by the frequency of deeds.
Nobody does this. Attacking your "oppressors" out of a desire for payback is an almost non-existent phenomenon. I know it makes sense to the people here but IRLs have different minds
Almost every act of terroristic violence is powered by delusion, not some kind of rational revenge
Sad
I imagine the proximity of the Arab world to Europe had something to do with it. It’s much easier to talk about your “adventures” and mentorship abilities when you can travel back and forth and get the reputation for being “real.”
And just like most gangs in the world, it’s usually formed of initially oppressed diaspora - migrants and immigrants - to form community and protection but without any recognition of class warfare, you’re prone to just criminal behavior regardless of what the purported beliefs and code of conduct are.
Europe is also one of the US’ closest allies and has the most direct history with the Islamic world compared to the US.
So location + proxy enemy + real enemy + class