careful, you can get lost in these stories they are kind of a train wreck. the worst one I've read about so far was (cw: torture) the attackers who tortured a guy for an hour with a heavy drill and made his four-year-old daughter watch

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    meatspace :michael-laugh:

    Bitcoiners are the most oppressed minority :deeper-sadness:

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      • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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        i dunno it's better than "real life" etc implying online interactions aren't "real". That's how you justify shitty takes about harassment

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              • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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                "meat space" is a pair with "cyber space" where we do other things besides cybering in our robes and wizard hats. the reduction is deliberate and if that's meaningfully dehumanizing to you when it's not about a minority group or specific person I guess we need to talk about why dehumanizing all of humanity simultaneously is a problem.

                i'm not over here referring to the non-cyber world like that constantly but I also really don't understand what motivated the doing of enough analysis to have a problem with it. For me at worst it's merely cringe.

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                  • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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                    That sounds condescending

                    there are certainly contexts where calling people meat is dehumanizing but it seems closer to "humans are animals" to me than a fratbro objectifying a woman. I'm not around your shitty friend though. Thanks for explaining, I can see where you're coming from now.

                    And even now, with someone blowing up on me for not liking it,

                    who is blowing up?

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        I'm a tech bro that says meatspace, partly cause like comrade Ligma_Male said it emphasizes that what happens on the internet is still real, partly cause meatspace sounds cyberpunk as fuck, but mostly because it makes it easier to revitalize the term "cyberspace" as its corollary and that will always make me think of 90s TV writers trying to write about technology they dont understand and youth lingo they don't understand

        can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?

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          • crime [she/her, any]
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            The "meat" refers to the things that humans are made of and has nothing to do with :im-vegan: people unless they've developed cell walls and chloroplasts recently. Online/offline are adjectives to describe state, not the places themselves.

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              • crime [she/her, any]
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                It’s like the “calling women feeeeeemales”

                lmaoooooo between the two of us I don't think you're the most qualified to be making that analogy

                And I'm sorry but if the mere word meat is upsetting to you then you should probably not spend any more of your time in cyberspace.

                It's not any more reductionist than any other synechdoche. You're welcome to cut that whole rhetorical device out from your vocabulary if you don't like it. I do, I will be keeping it. This doesn't seem to be a productive conversation so I'm not going to reply again.

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                  • crime [she/her, any]
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                    How the fuck am I concern trolling? I like the expression, you've gone on like a five-post tirade about how it's inherently offensive because it has the word "meat" in it

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                      • crime [she/her, any]
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                        What's your fucking problem? I clearly wanted to disengage but then you came in here calling me a concern troll for pointing out that it's ridiculous for someone who isn't a woman to compare usage of the term 'meatspace' to men actively dehumanizing us by calling us 'females'

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