careful, you can get lost in these stories they are kind of a train wreck. the worst one I've read about so far was (cw: torture) the attackers who tortured a guy for an hour with a heavy drill and made his four-year-old daughter watch

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    Doesn't matter how good your password security is if there's a human who can be clobbered with a hammer repeatedly until they let you in.

    Banks provide a significant amount of personal security, you can't just clobber someone with a hammer to get access to millions of dollars in a few minutes. There's significantly more risk involved for the robber.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      My favorite hacker trick is when they call a secretary pretending to be the boss and just get told the password. Obviously doesn't always work but it's worth a shot at least.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      Doesn’t matter how good your password security is if there’s a human who can be clobbered with a hammer repeatedly until they let you in.

      i dont remember anything so sorry guys :gigachad:

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        They will keep hitting your toes, feet and hands with that hammer until your memory comes back.

        Most people will break.

  • ToastGhost [he/him]
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    imagine enduring fucking torture and letting your child watch in the hopes of keeping your chucky cheese tokens

    • AmericaDelendeEst [any]
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      imagine you endure it when you're worth millions and make it out but the crash happens the next day

  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I used a crypto exchange once. I was very close to considering using P2P i.e. you meet with the seller in person, give them cash, then they send the crypto to you on the spot.

    Luckily my gut told me that’s fucking stupid and I didn’t do that lol

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    meatspace :michael-laugh:

    Bitcoiners are the most oppressed minority :deeper-sadness:

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      • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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        i dunno it's better than "real life" etc implying online interactions aren't "real". That's how you justify shitty takes about harassment

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              • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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                "meat space" is a pair with "cyber space" where we do other things besides cybering in our robes and wizard hats. the reduction is deliberate and if that's meaningfully dehumanizing to you when it's not about a minority group or specific person I guess we need to talk about why dehumanizing all of humanity simultaneously is a problem.

                i'm not over here referring to the non-cyber world like that constantly but I also really don't understand what motivated the doing of enough analysis to have a problem with it. For me at worst it's merely cringe.

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                  • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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                    That sounds condescending

                    there are certainly contexts where calling people meat is dehumanizing but it seems closer to "humans are animals" to me than a fratbro objectifying a woman. I'm not around your shitty friend though. Thanks for explaining, I can see where you're coming from now.

                    And even now, with someone blowing up on me for not liking it,

                    who is blowing up?

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        I'm a tech bro that says meatspace, partly cause like comrade Ligma_Male said it emphasizes that what happens on the internet is still real, partly cause meatspace sounds cyberpunk as fuck, but mostly because it makes it easier to revitalize the term "cyberspace" as its corollary and that will always make me think of 90s TV writers trying to write about technology they dont understand and youth lingo they don't understand

        can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?

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          • crime [she/her, any]
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            The "meat" refers to the things that humans are made of and has nothing to do with :im-vegan: people unless they've developed cell walls and chloroplasts recently. Online/offline are adjectives to describe state, not the places themselves.

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              • crime [she/her, any]
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                It’s like the “calling women feeeeeemales”

                lmaoooooo between the two of us I don't think you're the most qualified to be making that analogy

                And I'm sorry but if the mere word meat is upsetting to you then you should probably not spend any more of your time in cyberspace.

                It's not any more reductionist than any other synechdoche. You're welcome to cut that whole rhetorical device out from your vocabulary if you don't like it. I do, I will be keeping it. This doesn't seem to be a productive conversation so I'm not going to reply again.

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                  • crime [she/her, any]
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                    How the fuck am I concern trolling? I like the expression, you've gone on like a five-post tirade about how it's inherently offensive because it has the word "meat" in it

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                      • crime [she/her, any]
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                        What's your fucking problem? I clearly wanted to disengage but then you came in here calling me a concern troll for pointing out that it's ridiculous for someone who isn't a woman to compare usage of the term 'meatspace' to men actively dehumanizing us by calling us 'females'

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  • Mizokon [none/use name]
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    The drill story is brutal what the fuck

    cw

    https://nltimes.nl/2020/02/02/violent-robbery-bitcoin-trader-included-water-boarding-power-drill

    His hands were tied behind his back and he was hung from his neck. The perpetrators filled the bath with the aim of drowning him. "Then they put the shower hose in my mouth and filled me with water," H. said. The perpetrators used a masonry drill to drill seven holes in his left leg and foot. They beat him, kicked him and pointed a gun at his head, H. said.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      2 years ago
      another story about it

      https://beincrypto.com/netherlands-man-tortured-with-drill-for-bitcoin/

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      It's even worse

      cw

      They also made his 4-year old daughter watch the whole thing

      Like I hate crypto bros but holy fuck I hope they caught those robbers (again more that they are sociopaths and dangers to people in general than pearl wringing over attempted theft shit)

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    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      It's resistant to like one specific form of theft and extremely vulnerable to all the other types of thefts that involve social engineering or coercion.

  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Double edged sword, I guess.

    Brb. Gonna go make a fake bitcoin ATM and drop it in the middle SXSW or something.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    makes sense that if you were into extreme crime that youd rob these people with hard to trace assets

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  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    jfc. If I'm ever in a situation where I might be tortured my plan is to immediately say anything and everything because i am simply not paid enough to try to withstand that shit.