• GuerrillaMindset [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    it was longer than 7 years now but do yall think seal team 6 really killed bin laden?

    apparently the helmet cam footage went out before they entered the building and that famous situation room pic of hillary gasping i think was supposed to be from that raid but i could swear that pic was proven staged. then they released some photoshopped image of bin laden's face in all the news outlets which i saw the 2 pics that were merged to make it and then they said they threw the body into the ocean. i never saw confirmation but in like 2002 multiple international news outlets were reporting that bin laden died on dialysis. and then years later they made a movie to propagandize it called zero dark thirty. i thought i was going crazy thinking about this a few months back and then i saw somebody on here posted some links and i felt validated. the whole thing is sus af to me.

    • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      he released videos in 2004, and lots of alleged audiotapes. you'd need to be fluent to analyse that all for authenticity ig but it'd probably be a bigger deal if these were possibly faked.

      is the actual story probably more embarrassing? i mean fuck they told us one of their helicopters went down with no inclement conditions or hostile fire lmao. they probably committed crimes or goofed real bad, & the ensuing coverup necessitated the incongruities. can't release cam footage of yankee soldiers desecrating bodies, killing civilians & yelling slurs yknow

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Didn't Seymour Hersch write a story that basically alleged that the mission was to take Osama alive in Pakistan covertly, interrogate him, and then stick him in a car in Afghanistan and drone strike it in order not to publicly implicate Pakistan who were supposed to be an ally?

        I'm not 100% sold on that but I could absolutely see that going out the window when they crashed their stealth helicopter and instead just reverted to lighting up everyone in the compound. I could totally believe zealous Navy Seals all wanting to be the guy who popped Bin Laden taking their chance regardless of the original mission too, but I'd be equally unsurprised if they captured him and tortured him to death before doing the whole smoke and mirrors about his burial etc.

        • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Makes me think of how the US supported the South Vietnamese president being couped in 62, but then instead of getting him to the US alive one of the captors just shot him in the back of an APC

      • HornyOnMain
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        2 years ago

        iirc the rock even announced it about half an hour before the white house did

      • fishnwhistle420 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I’ll never forget where I was when The Rock told us they finally got bin laden

    • Satanic_Mills [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      So the seals have a grotesque practice calling 'canoeing', aiming to achieve a specific shape of head wound. In addition a number of the seals did not follow proper procedure and raced up the compound to claim the killing shot (there are multiple claimants, each with their own book 'proving' they are the one that did it).

      Either of these would explain why they wouldn't want cam footage of the raid.

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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        2 years ago

        yeah that "canoeing" literally involves sticking your high power rifle point blank against the victim's forehead and blowing their brains out. Usually done after the target is dead too as a "calling card". Sick shit done by psychopaths. They probably mangled his body so bad they could only identify with DNA, then dumped it in the ocean before anyone else could see what happened.

        That said they probably actually killed him. Hard to hide from the empire as the #1 public enemy terrorist. He only lasted as long as he did because our "ally" Pakistan was providing cover for him.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, the fact the Seals went into "Not an ISI safehouse we swear" and lost an aircraft and advertised the fact means that it was likely a legit raid and all the coincidences are a mixture of actual coincidence and some major fuckups in the raid they don't want to advertise.