Jesus: is crucified
Catholics: “Look at how good this Friday is”
Getting brutally tortured and crucified sounds like a pretty terrible Friday to me. An actual Good Friday would be like, Jesus getting high with his buddies and playing Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 on the PS1 while eating pizza.
Can someone please explain this.
EDIT: How about “Good Friday” but it’s Jesus getting high with Ice Cube and Chris Tucker.
Ok, then how would they appreciate their salvation more now, without giving them a hard-hitting message, sweaty!
Seriously, though, saying this is the equivalent of saying "Trotsky invented racism to stop all political debate". This is just pure bad-faith slander on your part. Is this what the deranged evangelicals think of, as 'atheist' beliefs?
I don't think I've seen God intentionally create evil DIRECTLY in the Biblia...
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah 45:7&version=KJV note that's not me picking KJV, they default to it.
and there's ordering the genocide of the amalakites, instructions for how to scam your slaves into not being a temporary deal, the child sacrifice "test"... textual crimes of god in the "good book" would take several hours to go over if you want all of them.
Ok, on second thoughts... I'd change my mind on that...
He's the demiurge, the creator of everything.
So! Who created the Serpent?
Humans are special because we're the only creations with free will.
So why does the Serpent tempt humanity?
It's all a fucking test for humans to see how much we love God.
omnipotence and omnipresence preclude the existence of free will. Either god knows everything that will happen, in which case every choice a human ever makes including ones which condemn them to hell are all part of something god set in motion and is ultimately responsible for, OR god is not actually all knowing and able to foresee that
I don't care what weaselly arguments christians have invented against this in the last 2000 years to "um akshually" me because as far as I am concern this is case fucking closed
Did he intend for that angel to fall from grace and turn evil?
That being said, I guess you can criticize him for his relative inaction when it comes to that negative side of his creation...
Angels don't have free will! Only humans have that, that's canonically what makes us so special.
That angel was created to fall from grace from the very start. Just God play-acting with His dolls.
Ok, now you're bringing mudpies into the argument...
State me ** a bible verse where God mentions "free will" being only inherent within humanity** or I will think of it as pagan revisionism, like that people did with Christmas and Easter...
Let alone the prove that Free will is canon within the bible....
Huh. Totally thought it was canonical. My bad!
Though, uh, "free will is apocryphal" doesn't really contradict my point? If there isn't free will in angels or humanity then it's all just God playing with his dolls.
Well, as I should say, it's up in the air... free will, in this case, could just not necessarily be exclusive to humanity...
It still leaves the problem of God being all-knowing and perfect.
He created the Serpent fully knowing that the Serpent would go on to tempt humanity and cause the Fall.
Why not just not create the Serpent? Seems pretty intentional to me, even if the Serpent had free will.
idk how anybody could defend the christian god, he literally goes into a bet with satan just to fuck up a dude's life to prove that he actually loves him, and wow, god wins, so that man's life is restored right? sure, but not all his fucking kids or his wife, they're just fuckin' dead, for a bet
he literally sent a bear to maul a bunch of kids for making fun of a bald man