The additional $600 in COVID unemployment per week will probably end up edging out Trump for me. Depends on how much of the additional 10k for Pell I get.
Perhaps, even if the Biden debt forgiveness is more in net, its not more money in my pocket immediately which could mean :trump-moist: still was better for me
Rather than sliding into denigrating this or into praising the dems, we need to always be pushing the line further.
What's great about this (assuming it doesn't fall apart somehow), is that it demonstrates to folks that debt is bullshit. Just numbers on a page waiting to be poofed
honestly im still down a large chunk of change lol but 10k is not nothing for us peasants.
this mf better not do a rug pull.
this mf better not do a rug pull.
Worst case scenario is that he does and it radicalizes a shitload more people
this mf better not do a rug pull.
I would not be even a little bit surprised.
It also has made a load if ivy league blue ticks incredibly upset, which is always a good thing.
If I get 20k forgiven I might actually start making payments again. Which I guess is the point, this is how they actually get people to give them anything since wage workers mostly have $0 per month plans. If its only 10k, nothing changes for me.
the pell were grants. no need repay.
but because you qualified for pell, it means you get $20k erased.
That would be pretty cool. Maybe I will not be in debt to the US gov forever, although I always assumed I would eventually be leaving the country at some point
either way: never pay.
our ancestors fought against debtor's prisons for a reason: so we don't have to pay the ghouls.
My partner's current strategy for undergrad loans is to never pay. Does that actually work? Are there any consequences?
It’s been working for me for a long time.
It hurts your credit score some. Other than that, no.
Use every forbearance, etc that you can to keep them from going into default for as long as possible.
Yeah, oh well, I'm not too stoked about this. Seems more like dangling a carrot and trying to get me to vote. I am happy its going to help some people though.
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instead of thanking biden for "forgiving" your debt you should question a system that puts you in debt in the first place, and ask why you should be "thankful" to its bourgeois leaders that they magnimously "forgave" the debt they put you in, in the first place. And why did they put you in debt, after all? For receiving an education? Why did you need an education? So you can go and work for them, and make them money! They charge you tens of thousands of dollars for what is essentially job training at the end of the day.
If I set your dwelling on fire, and then put the fire out, you are not obligated to thank me for my firefighting services. Nor should what I am doing be framed as "flame forgiveness"
Also don't believe any claims about debt forgiveness is real until the next election cycle is over. There's plenty of time for them to pull the rug out from under you. The bourgeoisie and their lapdog politicians will never be your friend.
They charge you tens of thousands of dollars for what is essentially job training at the end of the day.
Job training with a gambling mechanic built in, where you may graduate and get no job at all, at which point you can double down for an even more expensive degree and try the job search again, or cut your losses and go home
But my gf is losing 20k of her 35k of debt.
don't believe it until it actually happens
Why is everyone so head over heels on Biden PROPOSING to do the bare minimum he could do about student loan cancellation? Like ok, it's good compared to other stuff he's done but it was a very low bar and this is still means tested bullshit.
God forbid people get excited about the possibility of their lives being less shitty. Log off
Death to America
Lol. Yeah, there's definitely no historical precedence for crumbs being used to undermine movements for actual change. "This is a big fucking deal."
My god, we don't have a movement to be undermined. This isn't the New Deal mollifying the socialist movement, no leftists are going to become liberals over a single policy, people here are merely expressing relief that the burden capitalist society has placed on them has been lightened a bit by government action. If anything, this demonstrates how gov intervention can make peoples' lives easier, and might lead people to ask why it never happens on a larger scale
And the ACA is the first step towards Universal Healthcare.👍 I've already seen this one, it's a classic.
I don't have to, I've already seen this one. That's what I was told by people making the same arguments as you over the ACA.
They're not gonna do something that benefits you more than it will save the system.
I'm not expecting THEM to do something, I'm hoping people realize that the state has power, and chooses to not help people with it. I'm hoping people ask questions like "why only 10k?" "why not medical debt" "why does this shit exist in the first place" It's a longshot, but more realistic than whatever you're assuming I'm saying/
They’re not gonna do something that benefits you more than it will save the system.
I’m not expecting THEM to do something,
They DID do something; they mean tested a half assed forgiveness program that is going to do more to further lock people into an exploitative system than it's going to lead to your idealistic epiphanies. CONSENT IS MANUFACTURED, this is part of that process. Look forward to spending the next decade being told you're ungrateful for not being satisfied for what you got every time you try to bring up the need for actual change to student loans or higher education.
Look forward to spending the next decade being told you’re ungrateful for not being satisfied for what you got every time you try to bring up the need for actual change
Good thing they do this already
Yup. It's almost as if it's a predictable methodology the system uses to maintain itself.
Over half of her debt wiped out in a snap.
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Well he's still doing the bare minimum in the same way that Obama did, it's just that conditions are much more dire now, so the level of the minimum has risen.