• fishnwhistle420 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Hypocrisy shaming, the one weapon that has always proven effective against republicans

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Right wing ghouls seem to think that if you go to college and get a useful (aka high paying) degree, you should be able to pay your college debt easily. This ignores the fact that even highly paid professions like doctors have a lot of people struggling with debt due to the sheer cost of tuition over many years.

      That said, under the present conditions of capitalism taking out a large loan to get a degree in something that isn't likely to pay well is basically volunteering for many years of debt slavery.

      In a humane society, people should be able to study whatever they want and still be financially secure. Imagine how many fucking artists and musicians the world has missed out on because the objectively safe thing to do is get an accounting degree instead?

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      To them if you're poor you don't deserve education and would rather you die in one of their lithium mines or Amazon warehouses instead

    • Rem [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      If you're poor, yes. People who have been hollowed out by capitalism have the fundamentalist Christian belief of "bad things are bad because God says so, and it's only God's say-so that makes something good or bad." Except god and the market are one and the same. Punishment by the market in the form of debt that you can't pay back is deserved by definition, for your hubris of trying to rise above your natural place. They don't consciously think of it in those terms, but it's absolutely the unexamined core of their beliefs.

      This is is why they seem like they're getting "is and ought" confused all the time, conflating strategic decisions with moral ones, because if you derive your morality from market success, there is no discernable difference.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    Do you know what I could do with $705,132 dollars, do you have any idea....I could conquer the fuckin world

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      For real, or at least I'll travel to 200 cool places for a month each

  • cogito_ergo_cum [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I don't know that it's necessarily hypocritical to criticize a policy even if you benefit from it or similar policies. It's kind of the :very-intelligent: "yet you participate in society" but now we approve because it's directed at shitheads.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I don't care about :very-intelligent:, I care about these fucking deadbeats getting 705k for free, it's fucking madness :hypersus:

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Meh, who cares. You can't really expect a logical exchange with fash.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The key difference is that workers have the conditions of capitalism forced upon them, which makes their participation in the capitalist system (including purchase of consumer goods like iphones and Starbucks) less than entirely voluntary.

      Prager U, on the other hand, constantly argues for the continuation of capitalism, or even change towards even more cutthroat forms of capitalist competition. Loudly advocating for a system but acting against the principles you advocate is hypocritical. Wanting a different system while complying with the current one due to lack of choice is much less so.

      To illustrate by grossly oversimplification: imagine you and a group of your friends go to see a movie together. You want to see <good movie> but they overwhelmingly vote for <Marvel Capeshit Ep MCXVI> so you go see the bad movie. After the movie, everyone thinks that it was dogshit and is complaining about it. You have much more of a right to be angry than they do because they chose the thing and you only went along with it to keep the peace.

    • RangeFourHarry [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah sure, maybe logically, but they also aren’t saying ‘I disagree, but money is money’

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      2 years ago

      I don't even think it's an unfair accusation because they're explicitly individualist virtue ethicists. They're not making some kind of systemic critique. Their problem is with Bad people who make Bad choices and with policies that enable them. Making those exact choices that they castigate others for is the definition of hypocrisy.

  • ComRed2 [any]
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    2 years ago

    You need a degree to do anything in this society. The degree is locked behind a wall of money. Unless you're born in a rich family, you have no choice but to take out a loan.

    If you get fucked by the system, which is designed to fuck people in the first place, it's because you're the irresponsible one. What a joke.

  • SaniFlush [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    I have the feeling they don’t care about hypocrisy, and neither does their audience, whose only desire is getting jerked off by blue and orange men’s room sign animations