Before was the American dream, ‘Pull yourself by the bootstraps, and you can make yourself…you can make it in America,’ all these lies that America told us our whole life. And then when we start getting in, they tried to lock us out of it. They start inventing words like you know, ‘capitalist,’ you know, things like that. I mean, you know, we’ve been called ‘n–ger’ and ‘monkeys’ and shit. I don’t care; those words y’all come up with. Y’all gotta come up with stronger words.

We’re not gonna be tricked out of our position. Y’all locked us out. Y’all created a system that, you know, doesn’t include us. We said fine. We went our alternate route. We created this music. We did our thing, you know, we hustle, we fucking killed ourselves to get to this space. And, you know, now it’s like, you know, you know, ‘Eat the rich,’ and, man, we’re not stopping, so that evolution is, you know, from us.

  • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    like there’s at least human psychology at work here instead of straight ghoulishness

    I think it's in addition to straight ghoulishness rather than instead of. Capitalists who are members of marginalized groups (black, Jewish, LGBT, whatever it may be) are able to rationalize their exploitative role in the economy by pretending they're taking revenge against the systemic oppression their group suffered. And it's easy to see, like you said, how that can translate into the shitty individualist psychology of "Oh so it was OK for whitey to be a capitalist for centuries but the second I do it it's suddenly time for everyone to become socialist?!?!"

    But obviously that's not the case since the white people advocating for capitalism have always skewed towards the racist/colonialist side of things and the white people advocating for socialism have always skewed towards the anti-racist and anti-colonialist side of things. And even beyond "advocacy" of capitalism, it was the bourgeoisie and their feudal nobility/aristocrat ancestors who set up the global exploitative economy that characterizes capitalism and imperialism today. That the exploitation of the capitalists has adopted predatory inclusion as a strategy is less an excuse for marginalized individuals to Do A Heckin Wholesome Capitalism than it is a (mostly failing) strategy by the bourgeoisie to shore up false consciousness in previously alienated groups.

    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      also if he used his wealth and position as a Black billionaire in order to popularize socialism he'd probably get suicided or jailed for some bogus charge

      although the most likely case is that he just has brainworms

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        also if he used his wealth and position as a Black billionaire in order to popularize socialism he’d probably get suicided or jailed for some bogus charge

        I mean, that's more or less what happened to Nipsey, and he was nowhere close to being a socialist and wasn't a billionaire at any rate. But he sincerely cared about his community, even if it was viewed from the lens of (Black) capitalist realism. The pigs, of course, did not like that, and once Nipsey began moving towards brokering the truce between various LA gangs, just like Hampton and Tupac, Nipsey had to go. And to make it even more obvious who was behind all this, Nipsey's murderer was apparently a snitch as well.

      • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        also if he used his wealth and position as a Black billionaire in order to popularize socialism he’d probably get suicided or jailed for some bogus charge

        Depends on how effective he is. They might just let him get away with it since being a capitalist who profits off of 3rd world exploitation while pushing for "socialism" (usually just social democratic reforms) in the 1st world serves an important bourgeois propaganda function in making socialists look like ridiculous hypocrites. Reactionaries never tire of painting socialists as entitled and spoiled. What better way to do that then to point at a billionaire "socialist" of color whose overpriced merch comes from sweatshops and to say "Look, see!"

    • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      In addition to is what I was attempting to say yeah. Worded poorly and it came across as a defense of his behavior instead of an analysis

      • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        yeah for sure. I was trying to take the central point of your analysis and expand on it a bit. someone said you were full of shit, but I saw where you were coming from and tried to take it in that direction while perhaps clarifying some things