The philosophy of "Kill the terrorists and their families" is still fucked up even when leftists do it people.

  • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Love too have my entire family and community genocided because the "revolutionaries" were worried about moral purity and got fucking executed

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I'm not saying "we need to kill children" lol. I'm saying that you don't fucking know what a revolution would look like, especially in the imperial core where if we win all capitalists everywhere lose. Maybe it will be a relatively bloodless affair. Maybe everything will work out and revolutionary terror won't be necessary.

        But you should be prepared for it to not be like that at all. You should be prepared for the enemy to mass murder us and our families with impunity. You should be prepared to do anything necessary to stop them, keyword being necessary. That's all we are saying. And people are handwringing like we want to kill babies, or even plan on it. I don't want to kill anyone, and I have no plans to ever kill anyone. But if fascists begin rounding up and killing those I love and care about, things change.

          • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Yes, and the simple fact of the matter is that while avoiding underage casualties in war may be impossible and that is worth saying, it is also worth saying that “revolutionary terror targeting children doesn’t serve the ends of any revolution” and accepting that, even during a revolution, there are things you don’t do because they are so wrong that they undermine your cause.

            I mean, that's wrong though. You don't know what the situation will be and what the stakes will be. What if the horrible act is the only thing you can do to try and stop something worse?

            Yes, and the simple fact of the matter is that while avoiding underage casualties in war may be impossible and that is worth saying, it is also worth saying that “revolutionary terror targeting children doesn’t serve the ends of any revolution” and accepting that, even during a revolution, there are things you don’t do because they are so wrong that they undermine your cause.

            This is the mischaracterization, it's neither of those things. Saying revolutionary terror targeting children doesn't serve the ends of any revolution is just objectively wrong. And saying that we think it's acceptable is also wrong. Sometimes you have to do things that are unacceptable and you shouldn't try to justify them. You can clarify context to let other people make their own judgement without justifying these acts. Likely, they will have the same conflicting feelings you would.