Ok, so I saw a bunch of people got really angry at me, and I understand why. I think I gave off the impression that I thought all dark things were bad, when that's simply not true. I'd be angry at myself if that's what I meant.

A good example of a good piece of "dark art" is Primal. Beautiful, stunning visuals, dark themes, and, most importantly, a distinct lack of nihilism. The series is excellent at showing sympathy for it's characters while still having an immense amount of terrible shit happening at any given time.

Mad God is... not this. Most of the character's don't even have names. But that doesn't mean the movie is inherently worthless or anything. The stop-motion is good in that movie, and a lot of people simply like gorey stuff.

Something I don't think I touched on enough in my last post is that "sadism" and "adrenaline" are two very different things, and being excited and finding gorey stuff cool is a completely valid reason to enjoy it. To be honest putting "sadism" in that sentence was just a case of me being fed up and it was dishonest to put it there.

Of course, the inverse is also true, and finding that stuff off-putting is also a valid reason to dislike it.

It's like spicy food- Spicy food is really tasty to some people but food being spicy is not, by itself, a reason for a meal to be considered High Culinary Art. But High Culinary Art can still be spicy.

I know I was too confrontational, I apologize for that.

For the people who are not terminally online and didn't see the last post I made, I'm basically trying to argue that dark plots or visuals do not inherently make art better. There can still be good, dark art, but being dark is not by itself a good enough reason to be considered Mind Blowing Stuff. Warhammer 40k is cool but it could hardly be considered the Iliad 2. On the other hand, the Iliad itself is pretty dark. I mean, it's ancient Greek.

I am also fairly sick of nihilistic plots which end in "everything sucks and no one should try" but I know that's subjective. Some people find relief in hopelessness, excitement, a lot of good things they can get from stuff like that.

I apologize again and I hope that nobody is else is attacked by this. I really didn't want to be so confrontational and I'm ashamed of my phrasing and what I said.