Zizek not shredding that snakeoil seller to the last grain made me hate him. He could have converted 100k chuds in 5 minutes, but he chose not to. THAT is counterrevolutionary. Fuck him. *schniff*
Well Zizek made himself seem agreeable and sympathetic to the broader and inoffensive Peterson has about society and by making himself seem like a big friendly communist he did more than by just owning him with logic and reason in my opinion.
I swear Zizek is useless at this kind of stuff - he is, or was a good gateway to the weirder leftist theory, but when it comes to actual political philosophy and communist history he is second tier or worse
The citations needed guys or Brace or Breht or Michael Brooks would have mopped the floor with Kermit Peterson
Imagine young Parenti debating Peterson
Still JP made himself look bad by not being prepared, but many teenage chuds would have been converted if there was a "JP owned by facts and logic video" of the debate
I think there's a big difference between academic disagreement and the cultural shitfights we're more accustomed to. And I think that Zizek did want to appear approachable rather than dominating. It makes sense in the context of his larger philosophy, you don't win people over by logically trouncing them, but you can by appearing entertaining, interesting and funny and by presenting a worldview which would be more enjoyable, which he generally did. There were moments where even Peterson was a little taken by Zizek's speech. I think that is the more effective method, even if it results in fewer fireworks.
And I like Zizek, he was one of the first Marxists I've read back in the day
The thing is, it wasn't even an academic disagreement. JP was completely out of his depth... Do you think JP could explain the labour theory of value competently? Do you think he has a coherent view of historical materialism? He's a charlatan
He's a grifter, and he should have been exposed as such.
edit: I mean there's an art to debating, sure... how to look good while also dismantling the opponent's argument. And I get that being too combative doesn't necessarily look good, but sometimes you need to push a bit more
Zizek not shredding that snakeoil seller to the last grain made me hate him. He could have converted 100k chuds in 5 minutes, but he chose not to. THAT is counterrevolutionary. Fuck him. *schniff*
Well Zizek made himself seem agreeable and sympathetic to the broader and inoffensive Peterson has about society and by making himself seem like a big friendly communist he did more than by just owning him with logic and reason in my opinion.
I swear Zizek is useless at this kind of stuff - he is, or was a good gateway to the weirder leftist theory, but when it comes to actual political philosophy and communist history he is second tier or worse
The citations needed guys or Brace or Breht or Michael Brooks would have mopped the floor with Kermit Peterson
Imagine young Parenti debating Peterson
Still JP made himself look bad by not being prepared, but many teenage chuds would have been converted if there was a "JP owned by facts and logic video" of the debate
I think there's a big difference between academic disagreement and the cultural shitfights we're more accustomed to. And I think that Zizek did want to appear approachable rather than dominating. It makes sense in the context of his larger philosophy, you don't win people over by logically trouncing them, but you can by appearing entertaining, interesting and funny and by presenting a worldview which would be more enjoyable, which he generally did. There were moments where even Peterson was a little taken by Zizek's speech. I think that is the more effective method, even if it results in fewer fireworks.
Yeah, I see your point, you are not wrong per se
And I like Zizek, he was one of the first Marxists I've read back in the day
The thing is, it wasn't even an academic disagreement. JP was completely out of his depth... Do you think JP could explain the labour theory of value competently? Do you think he has a coherent view of historical materialism? He's a charlatan
He's a grifter, and he should have been exposed as such.
edit: I mean there's an art to debating, sure... how to look good while also dismantling the opponent's argument. And I get that being too combative doesn't necessarily look good, but sometimes you need to push a bit more
JP approaches the brink of death, then catches covid, and somehow still here. Michael Brooks, visibly healthy and then suddenly gone.
Fuck you, world.
ah really? what a disappointment to learn. i never actually got around to watching the debate but i assumed there was some blood shed lol
Nah, I didn't watch that nerd shit, I'm just repeating what the cool people said about it.
lmao i gotcha. someone make a zizek's epic owns compilation in case we're mistaken