The only reason to get mad at someone calling you a bad leftist is if you think it might be true. People will absolutely prey on your insecurity to make themselves feel like their chronic posting habit is praxis. The solution is to not be insecure. Be humble, do honest self-critique. Don't let lonely people work out their frustrations on you. There is a difference between pipe-lining and emotional blackmail.

  • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    You are just proving my point by removing my comment and not addressing the linked example that is clearly showing harassment that has been reported, and is not removed

    • ella [any]A
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      2 years ago

      The entire post was locked instead. The community's mods see reports, not admins (I am a mod of that community for historical reasons, I don't actively check reports anywhere)

      • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        That same user in that thread harassed me in a different comm earlier last month, refused to disengage and misgendered me. Then I got banned instead of her. Then I had to appeal with like 10 people backing me up to get it reversed.

        So why do these users hold such sway to get away with harassment time and time again? Why do the victims of harassment get banned instead of the harassers in both these cases with this user?

        Why is harassment not policed by admins if it is a sitewide rule?

        Why do you say to discuss this unilateral change in c/userunion then remove all the posts from one side of the discussion and lock the comm?

        What is actually going on here?

        • ella [any]A
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          2 years ago

          That same user in that thread harassed me in a different comm earlier last month, refused to disengage and misgendered me. Then I got banned instead of her. Then I had to appeal with like 10 people backing me up to get it reversed. So why do these users hold such sway to get away with harassment time and time again?

          I don't know who you're talking about though I will say you were unbanned not because you appealed "with like 10 people" backing you up, you were unbanned because it was a bad call that we reversed

          Why is harassment not policed by admins if it is a sitewide rule?

          Harassment is policed by admins, that is not what I said. Admins don't have the ability to view community reports, only community moderators see those.

          Why do you say to discuss this unilateral change in c/userunion then remove all the posts from one side of the discussion and lock the comm?

          People have already discussed it. A few threads devolved into misinformation/concern-trolling which is why no more posts about this are allowed.

          This is nothing but stirring drama again. We are not going to allow harassment and we will remove it like we remove all other harassment.

          • PowerOfGlove [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            And no offense Ella, you're a mod of c/vegan: Why didn't you or Kanna do anything about Catherine_Steward's super aggressive and inappropriate behavior toward's Poison_Ivy under this post, and instead removed a bunch of of Ivy's comments, even though Catherine told Ivy "fuck you", "Shut the fuck up you carnist apologist piece of shit", "Go fuck yourself, you piece of shit.", "Examine your carnist brainworms asshole" and "Nice ableism you piece of shit."?

            Is that acceptable behavior?

              • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                This doesn't even include the multiple references to my post afterwards on that comm that has been used as a lightning rod to instigate more drama.

            • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Why didn’t you or Kanna do anything about Catherine_Steward’s super aggressive and inappropriate behavior toward’s Poison_Ivy

              Tbf, Kanna themselves jumped in and participated in the super aggressive behavior, so an objective arbitrator wouldn't be possible regardless.

            • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              “Nice ableism you piece of shit.”

              Yeah I'm the one in the wrong for pointing out someone's ableism, and not the person being ableist. It's almost like reactionaries always show their true colors when pushed, and that I was right the whole time because when it came down to it, Ivy started throwing around ableist bullshit.

              • PowerOfGlove [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                Her saying a mildly problematic line ("Go to therapy") after you had already directly insulted her several times doesn't retroactively make all that abuse you piled on her okay. Overall you acted very hostile and inappropriately with her. Combined with other behavior you've had with certain other users, you deserve some sort of punishment for it.

                Don't bother replying, I know how you get and am not interested.

                • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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                  2 years ago

                  im vewy sowwy, next time i will go "hey there friend, it appears you've done a heckin ableism. maybe try not doing that next time?"

                  lmao

                  • PowerOfGlove [she/her]
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                    2 years ago

                    Again, You're acting like you only started hurling insults after she said that, when by that point you had already said the 4 statements before "nice ableism you piece of shit".

                    Overall you are not the victim of that interaction even tho you act like it.

            • ella [any]A
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              2 years ago

              As I said before:

              I am a mod of that community for historical reasons

              I don't see every thread posted to this site. I already devote enough time here

              • PowerOfGlove [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                Fair enough, tho in that case why didn't Kanna do anything about that? She doesn't have an excuse.

                • ella [any]A
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                  2 years ago

                  in that case why didn’t Kanna do anything about that

                  I don't know, I'm not Kanna?

                  Seriously this is getting absurd. We don't get to everything because we don't see everything.

                  • PowerOfGlove [she/her]
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                    2 years ago

                    You're an admin. You've been informed, and linked to clear evidence of, bad behavior and a mod silently (Edit: And not-so-silently, as has been pointed out) encouraging it. I don't think you're helpless to do anything about it.

                  • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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                    2 years ago

                    I don’t know, I’m not Kanna?

                    You could've at least discouraged her from personally getting involved in the harassment, and then subsequently referring to my now-deleted post in multiple threads afterwards as a lightning rod to create more drama.

          • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Harassment is policed by admins, that is not what I said. Admins don’t have the ability to view community reports, only community moderators see those.

            I’m sorry but I don’t understand the distinction here. If someone reports a comment that is harassing them, would admins see it or not?

            People have already discussed it.

            Oh. People. They have discussed it. Guess that settles it.

            This is nothing but stirring drama again. We are not going to allow harassment and we will remove it like we remove all other harassment.

            Ok then remove the harassment in the example I linked you if you are serious about it, the community mods are neglecting their role so it is up to site admins to step in to deal with the harassment. Why’s it still up?

            https://hexbear.net/post/221486/comment/2820611

            • ella [any]A
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              2 years ago

              I’m sorry but I don’t understand the distinction here. If someone reports a comment that is harassing them, would admins see it or not?

              Admins would not see it

              Ok then remove the harassment in the example I linked you if you are serious about it, the community mods are neglecting their role so it is up to site admins to step in to deal with the harassment. Why’s it still up?

              The thread is locked and over now. We are already spread thin as a team, like I've said, we all have our own lives outside of this site

              • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                Admins would not see it

                Seems like a bit of an oversight if you are supposed to be policing it then?

                The thread is locked and over now. We are already spread thin as a team, like I’ve said, we all have our own lives outside of this site

                Seems like there’s one small group of people in particular making it harder for you than it needs to be

                • ella [any]A
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                  2 years ago

                  Seems like a bit of an oversight if you are supposed to be policing it then?

                  Do you understand why it's this way? Obviously if we could enable this feature we would, but we can't, because it was built that way. It is a structural problem with the site's codebase that we would love to change but can't because we don't have much of a dev team right now. Stop your concern trolling and disengage with me, this has gone on long enough.

          • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Admins don’t have the ability to view community reports, only community moderators see those.

            I did not know this. Does that mean that if there's a community report on c/urbanism that only @ultraviolet, @Eco, and I can see it?

          • AmericaDelendeEst [any]
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            2 years ago

            Harassment is policed by admins, that is not what I said. Admins don’t have the ability to view community reports, only community moderators see those.

            the admins should be well aware of catherine_steward telling me I should be killed because I messaged CARCOSA about it two days ago and they said they'd share it with the team discussion and it's wild seeing that same person at the center of this discussion for an entirely different set of hostile interactions I gotta tell you

            mod log of discussion where I'm guilty of being mildly annoying but was then told I should be killed. "slave owners should be killed, that means you too chud"

            bonus "I hope the admins ban me for this"

            very frustrated watching all this