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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists, for the “buh Zeleski is a jew?!?!” people.

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

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Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.

Last week's discussion post.

  • AssadCurse [none/use name]
    ·
    2 years ago

    https://www.iranintl.com/en/202209172983

    9/17/22 - London-based (lol) Iranian media claims she is killed with “blows to the head”

    https://www.npr.org/2022/09/21/1124237272/mahsa-amini-iran-women-protest-hijab-morality-police

    “Her father says she was beaten to death in custody”

    https://www.iranintl.com/en/202209165767

    Weird how a London-based gusano media org is the top reporting source on this for western press.

      • AssadCurse [none/use name]
        ·
        2 years ago

        How do statements from her father on 9/16/22 not qualify here? This is who sparked the unrest, and the London-based and other western funded media that pushed it, along with comprador groups within Iran

          • AssadCurse [none/use name]
            ·
            2 years ago

            If what you say is true, I hope Iran comes out with certain exemptions and reforms for Hijab law and morality laws, but somehow I think that wouldn’t matter. Just like Hong Kong protests this has passed the threshold where what sparked it has anything to do with what it has become. All anti-Iran pro-West groups are activated, they are going nuts right now with spook shit in Iran. Israel, Saudi Arabia and US.

            So it started under false pretenses, an understandably bereaved father made a poor assumption. Then media kept running with it even after they know it’s false. Now western spooks and Israeli and jihadists are hitting the gas.

            Sorry but this will be crushed. I hope there are some reforms but this particular type of violent protest is not going to work out here. It’s not principled

              • anoncpc [comrade/them]
                ·
                2 years ago

                2 policemen got killed already. 60 ambulance got trash. So call peaceful protest, america would activate national guard and shut those down . This is color revolution through and through, and the cause of it is from her previous surgery. Not trauma or got beat up.

                      • anoncpc [comrade/them]
                        ·
                        2 years ago

                        There’s many more that the user documents. Burning and harming peoples is not really peaceful, especially based on a lie. Same with Vietnam few years ago when they go in soldier barrack and attempted to burn it down, thankfully Vietnamese peoples respect the army, or thing would go south fast

                      • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                        ·
                        2 years ago

                        How are you this credulous time and time again. When the seasoned old tankies say color revolution why won't you believe us.

                      • Civility [none/use name]
                        ·
                        2 years ago

                        "Wow, I sure hope those cops, that were attacked in riots sparked over their enforcement of theocratic fascist laws, are okay"

                        -statement by a principled communist

                            • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                              ·
                              2 years ago

                              Nobody said it was. Neither was the Syrian, Ukrainian (pre-Maidan) or Libyan states. The color revolts still were filled with imperialist compradors and fascists that would take power.

                                • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                                  ·
                                  2 years ago

                                  What part of revolutionary defeatism and avoiding imperialist intrigue are you having trouble with?

                                  • Civility [none/use name]
                                    ·
                                    2 years ago

                                    I'm not a yank.

                                    But revolutionary defeatism doesn't mean opposing good movements on the other side, even if they weaken your state's enemies.

                                    During WW1, Lenin didn't oppose the German or Russian communist movements, despite living in Germany, coming from Russia, and both nations being on opposite sides of the war, and both movements aiming to overthrow their governments through civil war.

                                    Hoping Iranian movements fail for the sake of promoting revolutionary conditions wherever you are is profoundly selfish.

                                    • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                                      ·
                                      2 years ago

                                      Good movements

                                      This is Daesh. Israeli and Saudi backed fascists are here too.

                                      https://t.me/mangopress/9908

                                      Do “good movements” raise the flag of Turkish fascists? I’m guessing you weren’t around for the start of the Syrian civil war or the overthrow of Gaddafi. Radlibs like you said they were “good movements” too. All jihadists, tankies are always right

                                        • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                                          ·
                                          2 years ago

                                          The western left is infested with social fascist that support color revolutions and jihadists and fascists abroad

                                          • Civility [none/use name]
                                            ·
                                            2 years ago

                                            If you don't support the pigs who arrested a woman for wearing a hijab too loosely you're supporting jihadists and fascists!

                                            • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                                              ·
                                              2 years ago

                                              You supported the protests against Assad and Gaddafi too (they aren’t communist either after all). Don’t even bother denying it, you were on chapotraphouse calling people tankies and assadists and you have learned nothing

                                              • Civility [none/use name]
                                                ·
                                                2 years ago

                                                Happily, I've never had a reddit account.

                                                That this is triggering your "this is just like what happened on reddit back in 2011!" memories is definitely a massive :blob-stop: sign this isn't going anywhere good.

                                                I think we probably both need to spend less time getting into internet shitfights with strangers on the internet about politics in places neither of us live.

                                                I hope you enjoy the rest of your day.

                    • anoncpc [comrade/them]
                      ·
                      2 years ago

                      Like, we could acab. But when you see the rioter trash ambulance, and burning, blocking traffic. Not sure why some users here support that.

                      • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                        ·
                        2 years ago

                        This is obvious Turkish provocation to pull Iran from defending Armenia, can’t believe people here are buying this shit. Over and over and over we have to live through “Arab springs” from “progressive” groups that suddenly turn into jihadists and Nazis.

                        If this goes on much longer more and more people are going to die, and the jihadist element is going to grow stronger and stronger.

                        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
                          ·
                          2 years ago

                          Tbf, only 2 to 3 users buying this shite, but they pretty sus though. Red flag all over the place when they defend the destruction and rioter action. I think Iran will be fine since they already have experience containing this type of CR and the govt seem confident, but this one might be a bit bloody though.

                      • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                        ·
                        2 years ago

                        Yeah he should have sided with jihadist fascists instead. Iran is the most progressive and anti-imperialist force in the region and you are being chauvinist

                  • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                    ·
                    2 years ago

                    https://t.me/mangopress/9887

                    Video of the mosque burning

                    https://t.me/mangopress/9892

                    61 ambulances belonging to the ministry of health were sabotaged during the recent events.

                    • Iranian Ministry of Health

                    https://t.me/mangopress/9905

                    Photo evidence

                    https://t.me/mangopress/9902

                      • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                        ·
                        2 years ago

                        Iranian government is making official statements, these are ministry of health, 17 people have been killed per Al-Alam. Green Mosque in Rasht was burned, 3 were stabbed in front of Tabriz mosque in Tabriz (2 police officers and Hossein Ojaghi, a local)

                        This is such obvious color revolt Maidan/Hong Kong shit

                          • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                            ·
                            2 years ago

                            here's a bunch of fascists on :reddit-logo: celebrating the burning in a new "Maidan" in Iran

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/N_N_N/comments/xjko5i/breaking_video_burning_of_the_green_mosque_in/

                            This is what you are defending

                              • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                                ·
                                2 years ago

                                can you read farsi?

                                https://www.rajanews.com/news/360882/آتش-زدن-مسجد-و-تعرض-ناجوانمردانه-به-خانم%E2%80%8Cها-در-برخی-مناطق-منافقین-و-سازمان%E2%80%8Cیافته%E2%80%8Cها-وارد

                                https://vista.ir/n/hob9l3c

                                https://www.mehrnews.com/news/5595600/تجمع-رشتوندان-در-محکومیت-آتش-زدن-مسجد-سبزه-میدان